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Titty Meat 02-07-2012 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 8357777)
No, he's a piece of shit. He's honestly worse than Cassel.

He'll fail every time in an important game against a better QB.

Last year

Vince Young 4 touchdowns 9 picks

Tyler Palko 2 touchdowns 7 picks

NJChiefsFan 02-07-2012 11:06 PM

That one pick against PIT has to count for atleast 2, if not 2 and 1/2.

FD 02-07-2012 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8357752)
Vince Young is awful and part of the reason why the Eagles aren't in the playoffs.

This is reeruned.

He led a clutch, end of the game drive to beat the Giants in his first start in a new system, and the Eagles were 2-7 at the time.

jd1020 02-07-2012 11:20 PM

Everyones bitching about Cassels lack of passing yards and VY's best season came with 2500 passing yards and 17 INTs.

Frankie 02-08-2012 01:43 AM

Vince Young is not ours. So naturally he's an elite QB we should not miss out on.

Titty Meat 02-08-2012 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Forward Dante (Post 8357831)
This is reeruned.

He led a clutch, end of the game drive to beat the Giants in his first start in a new system, and the Eagles were 2-7 at the time.

You obvious didn't watch Eagles games.

It's convenient you left out the game against Seattle towards the end of the year where he eliminated the Eagles when he threw a pick 6.

Also your claim that he's gotten better every year is an inaccurate one. He hasn't completed above 60% of his throws since 2008. He hasn't thrown for more than 12 touchdowns since 2006.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-08-2012 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8357610)
He seems to be a good play action guy and is athletic as all get out. He throws a pretty good ball and would come cheap.

Most of all the dude is a winner.

I'd take him.

No he doesn't. He throws like the uncle from Napolean Dynamite.

splatbass 02-08-2012 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 8357383)
Mallet set records during his college career; Cassel didn't even start.

Who would you prefer on the roster right now?

Colt Brennan and Timmy Chang set college records for Hawaii, then busted in the pros. Neither was even as good as Cassel. College records are just college records and have no bearing on whether a QB will be good in the pros.

htismaqe 02-08-2012 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 8358141)
Colt Brennan and Timmy Chang set college records for Hawaii, then busted in the pros. Neither was even as good as Cassel. College records are just college records and have no bearing on whether a QB will be good in the pros.

That's not completely correct.

QBs that start 2 seasons or more in college don't always succeed but QBs that start 1 season or less almost always fail.

Does that make sense?

el borracho 02-08-2012 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 8358141)
Colt Brennan and Timmy Chang set college records for Hawaii, then busted in the pros. Neither was even as good as Cassel. College records are just college records and have no bearing on whether a QB will be good in the pros.

Well, I would agree if you said that college records are not guarantees of success (actually, I already stated that in this thread) but I disagree pretty strongly with the idea that college records have no bearing.

Seriously, who would you rather have on this team right now- Cassel or Mallet?

FAX 02-08-2012 09:10 AM

It's a shame, really.

Cassel has problems with vision and decision-making. A quarterback has to make his reads, make a decision, and get the ball to the best possible receiver in a matter of a few seconds. Cassel simply cannot do that with any consistency. You can have all the other physical attributes and an awesome attitude, but if you can't make quick reads, decisions, and throws, you cannot be successful.

Cassel's brain is wired for baseball ... not football.

FAX

splatbass 02-08-2012 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 8358153)
Well, I would agree if you said that college records are not guarantees of success (actually, I already stated that in this thread) but I disagree pretty strongly with the idea that college records have no bearing.

No bearing = no guarantees of success. Two different ways of saying the same thing.

splatbass 02-08-2012 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8358151)
That's not completely correct.

QBs that start 2 seasons or more in college don't always succeed but QBs that start 1 season or less almost always fail.

Does that make sense?

Colt Brennan started 3 seasons. He sucks more than Matt Cassel that didn't start at all. Colt Brennan broke a bunch of NCAA passing records. He sucks worse than Matt freaking Cassel. My point that breaking college records doesn't mean you will be a successful pro QB stands, and can't really be denied.

FAX 02-08-2012 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 8358189)
Colt Brennan start 3 seasons. He sucks more than Matt Cassel that didn't start at all. Colt Brennan broke a bunch of NCAA passing records. He sucks worse than Matt freaking Cassel. My point that breaking college records doesn't mean you will be a successful pro QB stands, and can't really be denied.

Given the issues described in Daboll's resume, it's possible they didn't exactly develop him properly.

FAX

htismaqe 02-08-2012 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 8358189)
Colt Brennan started 3 seasons. He sucks more than Matt Cassel that didn't start at all. Colt Brennan broke a bunch of NCAA passing records. He sucks worse than Matt freaking Cassel. My point that breaking college records doesn't mean you will be a successful pro QB stands, and can't really be denied.

You didn't even read what I said.


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