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DJ's left nut 10-24-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9045368)
And he would be useless in this offense because we don't have a QB to get him the deep ball and an OC that wouldn't send him deep anyways.

Exactly.

Can you imagine how effective Baldwin, at 6'4'' with his body control, would be running down those deep passes that Flacco likes to throw? And Boldin presents a similar look opposite him in that offense.

If Smith was here, we'd be using him like we used Breaston last season and everyone would be wondering why we didn't take that massive MFer in Baltimore that's jumping over corners for deep balls.

Baldwin isn't the problem here - Dabol and Cassel are. Ultimately Quinn may help a little, but I'm still not convinced that Dabol will use Baldwin worth a shit.

Woodchuck 10-24-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9045360)
Of course he's open.

He's generally 7 yards short of the sticks on 3rd down - why cover him until he's caught it?

McCluster is a drag on this offense more often than he isn't.

Yep, but the point is that Steve Breaston doesn't get as open when he plays in the slot. Why isn't Bowe getting opening against guys like Eric Wright? Anyone have an idea? Did anyone notice the one time he was wide open against Tampa he dropped the pass? it was a slant. How many times was he targeted in that game? Maybe 6 at the most? That means that was a $100,000 drop right?

Woodchuck 10-24-2012 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9045386)
Exactly.

Can you imagine how effective Baldwin, at 6'4'' with his body control, would be running down those deep passes that Flacco likes to throw? And Boldin presents a similar look opposite him in that offense.

If Smith was here, we'd be using him like we used Breaston last season and everyone would be wondering why we didn't take that massive MFer in Baltimore that's jumping over corners for deep balls.

Baldwin isn't the problem here - Dabol and Cassel are. Ultimately Quinn may help a little, but I'm still not convinced that Dabol will use Baldwin worth a shit.

I don't see it. He's not open either. Everything is a jump ball to that dude where he has to try and make some kind of circus catch. He's part of the problem imo. He wouldn't have to do that except on jump balls in the end zone if he could get open.

Our QBs suck and in no way am I defending them. I'm just saying that we were counting on guys like Bowe, Baldwin, and Breaston coming into this season and they have sucked ass.

We have won one game because we are lacking talent.

The Franchise 10-24-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9045397)
I don't see it. He's not open either. Everything is a jump ball to that dude where he has to try and make some kind of circus catch. He's part of the problem imo.

Our QBs suck and in no way am I defending them. I'm just saying that we were counting on guys like Bowe, Baldwin, and Breaston coming into this season and they have sucked ass.

We have won one game because we are lacking talent.

Shutup Blackbob.

DJ's left nut 10-24-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9045389)
Yep, but the point is that Steve Breaston doesn't get as open when he plays in the slot. Why isn't Bowe getting opening against guys like Eric Wright? Anyone have an idea? Did anyone notice the one time he was wide open against Tampa he dropped the pass? it was a slant. How many times was he targeted in that game? Maybe 6 at the most? That means that was a $100,000 drop right?

Yes he does.

Did you watch the team last year? Especially after Orton took over?

Breaston absolutely gets open that well, and he actually does it far enough downfield to matter.

Breaston is a much more effective slot WR than McCluster has ever been. All Dexter does is pad his stats by picking up 7 yards when we needed 9.

As to the rest of your post - did you have a stroke halfway through it or something? The rest of that is just rambling gibberish unrelated to any point I've made. But hey, congrats on speaking English the entire time - that's something.

DJ's left nut 10-24-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9045397)
I don't see it. He's not open either. Everything it's a jump ball to that dude where he has to try and make some kind of circus catch. He's part of the problem imo. He wouldn't have to do that outside of in the end zone if he could get open.

Our QBs suck and in no way am I defending them. I'm just saying that we were counting on guys like Bowe, Baldwin, and Breaston coming into this season and they have sucked ass.

We have won one game because we are lacking talent.

Watch him. If the camera isn't following him much, try to go to Arrowhead a time or two.

He's open plenty - we just don't look at him. That or he's being run into the center of the coverage because (again) Dabol is shitty at his job.

If it's just a question of making one guy miss and then getting a step or two of separation, he does that plenty. But there's usually a safety waiting for him because our offensive scheme is garbage. Moreover, when there isn't a safety waiting for him, Cassel's usually unloaded to his check-off before Baldwin's route has developed.

Or he's open altogether and Cassel just doesn't look that way.

People are assigning causes to Baldwin that just aren't there. Watch him - he's doing a hell of a lot better than you think he is.

O.city 10-24-2012 11:28 AM

We have guys running open consistently. I've witnessed it.



Just no one to get them the ball

Woodchuck 10-24-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9045408)
Yes he does.

Did you watch the team last year? Especially after Orton took over?

Breaston absolutely gets open that well, and he actually does it far enough downfield to matter.

Breaston is a much more effective slot WR than McCluster has ever been. All Dexter does is pad his stats by picking up 7 yards when we needed 9.

As to the rest of your post - did you have a stroke halfway through it or something? The rest of that is just rambling gibberish unrelated to any point I've made. But hey, congrats on speaking English the entire time - that's something.

Then why isn't he starting over McCluster genius? You think Romeo wants to keep his job? Did Eric Berry say he was the toughest guy to cover on the roster? Breaston is done in the slot unless McCluster gets hurt. HE's DONE.

This is just as stupid as the Eric Berry to FS argument. No coach is EVER going to move Berry to FS. Maybe in one or two packages but, never full time.. NEVER.... LOL

The Franchise 10-24-2012 11:30 AM

It's Blackbob....he's already proven that he has no clue about anything Chiefs related.

Woodchuck 10-24-2012 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9045415)
We have guys running open consistently. I've witnessed it.



Just no one to get them the ball

Maybe after about seven seconds after the snap when the QB is running for his life. Most of the sacks we give up this year are coverage sacks.

DaKCMan AP 10-24-2012 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9045422)
Then why isn't he starting over McCluster genius? You think Romeo wants to keep his job? Did Eric Berry say he was the toughest guy to cover on the roster? Breaston is done in the slot unless McCluster gets hurt. HE's DONE.

This is just as stupid as the Eric Berry to FS argument. No coach is EVER going to move Berry to FS. Maybe in one or two packages but, never full time.. NEVER.... LOL

This post is full of stupid.

BossChief 10-24-2012 11:35 AM

Dabolls offense in Miami attacked deep consistently.

The Franchise 10-24-2012 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9045433)
Dabolls offense in Miami attacked deep consistently.

Then there is a disconnect somewhere. This game will go along ways to determine if this offense was specifically gameplanned for Cassel. Quinn can throw the deep ball (albeit with accuracy issues).....so we'll see if they're game plan changes now that they have a QB that has the arm to get it there.

I already said after we signed Quinn that he was the perfect fit for Daboll's offense.

Sorter 10-24-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9045426)
Most of the sacks we give up this year are coverage sacks.

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htismaqe 10-24-2012 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9045432)
This post is full of stupid.

That poster is full of stupid.


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