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DaneMcCloud 06-27-2013 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9780816)
Every excuse you have used in regards to Alex Smith is the same EXACT shit that was said about Cassel when we traded for him.

Name the "excuses" I've used.

Thanks.

Tribal Warfare 06-27-2013 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 9780836)
The fact is if you look at the last 3 years, AS has been a pretty damn serviceable QB in the NFL.

Which is pretty damning, because being serviceable at QB just keeps your team treading water.

DaneMcCloud 06-27-2013 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9780841)
Which is pretty damning, because being serviceable at QB just keeps your team treading water.

If that was the case, how were the 49ers a few minutes from the Super Bowl in 2011? How were they 6-2 before he was injured in 2012?

Keep in mind, if they were 5-3 or worse, they would have never qualified for the playoffs, let alone the Super Bowl.

TheUte 06-27-2013 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9780841)
Which is pretty damning, because being serviceable at QB just keeps your team treading water.

As opposed drowning like last year???

TheUte 06-27-2013 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9780841)
Which is pretty damning, because being serviceable at QB just keeps your team treading water.

And actually is not damning at all. As long the QB doesn't lose the game.

I personally think the QB get far too much credit and far too much blame.

Hammock Parties 06-27-2013 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9780844)
If that was the case, how were the 49ers a few minutes from the Super Bowl in 2011? How were they 6-2 before he was injured in 2012?

The rest of the team.

How were the Chiefs 10-6 in 2010?

The rest of the team.

How were the Chiefs 13-3 in 1995?

Not Steve Bono.

Tribal Warfare 06-27-2013 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 9780846)
As opposed drowning like last year???

to getting his ass knocked out with a concussion

RunKC 06-27-2013 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9780853)
The rest of the team.

How were the Chiefs 10-6 in 2010?

The rest of the team.

How were the Chiefs 13-3 in 1995?

Not Steve Bono.

If this is the case I like our chances. We already have some strong talent on the team.

All depends on Dorset though. Can he build some more pieces in the next 2 years to put us around the 49ers level?

Tribal Warfare 06-27-2013 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 9780851)
And actually is not damning at all. As long the QB doesn't lose the game.

I personally think the QB get far too much credit and far too much blame.


Love Matt Cassel.

DaneMcCloud 06-27-2013 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9780853)
The rest of the team.

How were the Chiefs 10-6 in 2010?

The rest of the team.

How were the Chiefs 13-3 in 1995?

Not Steve Bono.

Lame and uniformed answer.

BossChief 06-27-2013 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9780840)
Name the "excuses" I've used.

Thanks.

His line
Play calling
Receivers

Hammock Parties 06-27-2013 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9780867)
Lame and uniformed answer.

LMAO

You really don't understand this concept of average QBs being drug to good seasons by elite teams, huh?

You'd think Chiefs fans would be all too familiar with the concept by now but I guess some people just don't ****ing get it.

DaneMcCloud 06-27-2013 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9780879)
His line
Play calling
Receivers

Those are not excuses.

Are you going to argue that he had even an adequate offensive line prior to 2011?

Are you going to argue that he's had a legitimate, consistent downfield threat?

Are you going to argue that the offensive play calling hasn't been questionable at times, especially in the Super Bowl with Kap?

If so, I'm all ears.

Furthermore, those ARE NOT excuses made for Cassel. Cassel had Welker and a very good Randy Moss. His offensive line gave up less than 20 sacks the year prior and the year following his departure. His offensive coordinator had been outstanding in 2007 and helped him to fabricate his numbers by putting him in the spread.

Alex Smith, despite the lack of a Wes Welker and young Randy Moss, put up the best QBR in the league last year. With no one other than a fat, slow and lazy Michael Crabtree, his team was one special teams fumble from the Super Bowl in 2011.

You guys are looking at this all wrong.

BigMeatballDave 06-27-2013 09:45 PM

Clay is the biggest hypocrite in ChiefsPlanet's history.

RunKC 06-27-2013 09:46 PM

The defensive side of the ball is a different thing entirely but I would say the following are facts about our offense.

-JC is a bigger playmaker than anyone Alex Smith has ever played with.
-Bowe is just as good as Crabtree. He's actually better at YAC, which is needed with this QB.
-Albert and Fisher combined will be better pass protectors than Staley and Davis combined.
-Andy Reid is every bit as good of a QB coach as Jim Harbaugh.

There really isn't that much of a difference in surrounding cast on the offensive side of the ball aside from Iupati and our TE's, who look to be pretty solid.


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