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DeezNutz 07-23-2013 11:56 AM

There are going to be a lot of mothers ****ed today.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-23-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9829232)
There are going to be a lot of mothers ****ed today.

Meatloaf makes the basement dwellers horny I reckon

Mav 07-23-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9829059)
I'd be so happy for this fan base. But let's be honest.

And I'm not trying to be a dick here:

He's not surrounded by pro-bowlers everywhere he looks like he was in SF.

It's going to be an uphill battle. You've got a complimentary Qb with nobody to compliment.

And, I will tell you like I told everyone here. Before the 2011 season started. There was ONE pro bowler on the 49ers roster. That was Patrick Willis. It is AMAZING what coaching can do for a team don't you think?
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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9829101)
I think this is all about Andy Reid. IMO.

I don't know where his head's at. It didn't seem to me like he took enough time to be with his family.

It was crazy to me that he took the job THAT QUICKLY in a year in which he lost his son.

Part of me thinks he just wants to keep going. I can understand that.

I just hope he's taken the time to grieve. Because if not, if he's doing this because he just doesn't want to think about it and he wants to distract himself, this will be a disaster.

I'm not saying he doesn't legitimately think he can fix the chiefs.

I just hope he's in a good place mentally and emotionally, because this isn't going to be easy.

Getting out, and getting away from Philly, was the best thing he could do for himself. But, getting out of football, and doing what? He is a life long coach. Hes exactly like Joe Pa. Joe Pa was forced out, and he died within months. He just needed a change of scenery, he didn't like the way the front office was being done in philly.
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9829102)
Throw in some delicious New Orleans Saints defense! Yum! This soup is so tasty! I love Alex Smith soup!

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9829112)
Defensive line is very iffy, some questionable pieces in the secondary. Berry and Flowers are good, then we're not really sure what we have.

LB corps is amazing.

Wow. Lets see.

Goes back in time to this time in 2011.

Well, we have Patrick Willis, we are replacing a very good lb in Takeo Spikes with an unknown in Navarro Bowman. We just gave a huge contract to Ray McDonald, we know we have Justin smith, but Isaac Soap, and Ray McDonald have never proven themselves, nor been starters. Ahmad Brooks was also made a starter for the first time, and we had Parys Harelson, who nobody in SF liked, starting over the 7th pick in the draft in some unknown chump named Aldon Smith.

In our secondary, we cut Nate Clements, and replaced him with Carlos Rogers, for 1 year, and 3 million dollars. We Kicked out Michael Lewis, and Taylor Mays, and brought in another guy who even the Buffalo Bills didn't want in Donte Whitner. We had Dashon Goldson, who had his worst season as a pro in 2010, and Tarrell Brown, who everyone hated. Shawntae Spencer, was benched, and he was projected to start.


That, is your DEFENSE THAT YOU CANT STOP SUCKING THE DICK OF, AND THAT IS HOW 49ER FANS VIEWED IT AT THE TIME.

And notice this. I didn't even mention, ANYTHING about the coaching. No one knew anything about Vic Fangio, and how he was going to be. Didn't know a damn thing about him. All we knew is that we won a bidding war with the Miami Dolphins for a COLLEGE HEAD COACH, whose first impression, was to keep public enemy number one as his QB in Alex Smith.

That's what you knew about the 49ers going into 2011.

How does it relate? Its the same ****ing story with this Chiefs team.

Hammock Parties 07-23-2013 12:00 PM

It doesn't matter what you say about that 49ers defense, it was #2 in the league.

Our defense will not be close this year, no matter what.

Mav 07-23-2013 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9829201)
Vernon's deadliest routes with Smitty were the wheel and the underneath stuff.

You're not going to find a whole lot of tape of VD just eating on 25 yard seams with Alex at QB.

The deep seam action would be there. But we weren't hitting those with any kind of regularity with Smitty.

Walker ran a deep seam against Baltimore in 2011. Very early in the game.

WIDE OPEN. Smitty throws the check down.

He talks about it after the game and he says, "I saw it. But I didn't want to go to it right away. I thought the opportunity would be there later in the game."


It wasn't.

Good Grief man. Go look in 2009, when Alex Smith was the main guy throwing to Vernon Davis when they scored 13 tds with Vernon Davis. THAT WAS THE ROUTE. You also talk about the Wheel route, which alex is EXCELLENT AT THROWING by the way, like its not an outside the hash marks throw, that travels further than 20 yards in the air on average. You also fail to mention that as far as a receiver goes, Vernon Davis probably has the worst hands in the entire NFL. He is a straight body catcher. This is how you are going to come on this board and slam Alex Smith, by telling these lies? I already made you prove yourself that you said that Alex Smith didn't target Crabtree, when in fact he targeted him more than anyone else. And that was in a season where crabtree had NOTHING to do with the 49ers during the offseason. He completely avoided Camp Alex, and took no part in training camp, or the preseason, and MISSED WEEK TWO INJURED. Wow.....
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9829202)
Also... while we're talking about WRs and TEs and targets...

Bowe is probably a better receiver than what Crabtree has become, but I don't think he's nearly the matchup problem that Vernon Davis is. No knock against Bowe, whom I've supported and liked for a long time, but Davis is just a freak of nature.

For all the knocks that people give to Alex Smith, about refusing to take chances, people really don't understand who Vernon davis is. Vernon Davis is a body catcher. His hands, are absolutely awful. Go watch the catch against the saints. It was a BODY catch. watch his two tds vs the giants in the nfccg. BODY CATCHES. You cant really throw into traffic with Vernon Davis because he is a BODY catcher.
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9829245)
It doesn't matter what you say about that 49ers defense, it was #2 in the league.

Our defense will not be close this year, no matter what.

Exactly. You just proved my point you oaf. You don't want to hear the truth, because it ****s up your mindset that Alex Smith cant do what he did here in San Francisco, because the Chiefs don't have their defense. When in fact, on paper, the Chiefs defense, today, looks BETTER than the 49ers defense looked going into 2011. Not to mention, the Chiefs Oline is better at THIS MOMENT, than the 49ers line was going into 2011, and you have Charles, and Bowe, who are better than Crabtree, and Gore, going into 2011.

Most,, thought Gore was done, because he had that Hip injury in week 11 of 2010, that's when Westbrook took over. Most thought Gores career was over.

You don't know shit about the 49ers, and even when people explain it to you, you just dismiss it.

You will learn bitch cakes. You will learn.

Jakemall 07-23-2013 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9829193)
It would be cool to win a playoff game for the first time since 1993. I won't deny that. Whether I change my tune on Alex Smith depends on how they win the playoff game.

A playoff win like the one against the Saints, followed by a loss in the next round where Alex Smith can't make consistent plays against a good D and can't keep his offense on the field? Doesn't do much for me other than break the embarrassing streak of complete postseason failure.

It's not Alex Smith's general competence I question. He's an OK NFL starter, and as long as Andy Reid and co. treat him like that and nothing more, there's no long term damage. What I question is Smith's ability to be the QB who makes plays against elite teams and good defenses in elimination settings.

Making the playoffs and winning a game with Alex Smith is not necessarily a good thing, either. I imagine they'd extend him regardless, if they win a playoff game. Even if he is merely a bystander to winning the game rather than the lynchpin, and probably even if he shits the bed in the next round again.

If you read the last link I tried to put up, you'll see that statisically Alex faired better against above average passing defenses than the average of NFL QBs.

Hammock Parties 07-23-2013 12:14 PM

LMAO

No one on our defensive line is remotely close to Justin Smith.

Use your brain.

Mav 07-23-2013 12:15 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KZ_4TJ2R3o

Here is the proof. Yeah, alex doesn't throw down field, or seam routes......

Jesus ****ing Christ.

Jakemall 07-23-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9829201)
Vernon's deadliest routes with Smitty were the wheel and the underneath stuff.

You're not going to find a whole lot of tape of VD just eating on 25 yard seams with Alex at QB.

The deep seam action would be there. But we weren't hitting those with any kind of regularity with Smitty.

Walker ran a deep seam against Baltimore in 2011. Very early in the game.

WIDE OPEN. Smitty throws the check down.

He talks about it after the game and he says, "I saw it. But I didn't want to go to it right away. I thought the opportunity would be there later in the game."


It wasn't.

He saw it...and he was kicking himself in the ass for it right after the play. As he should have. What he told the media after was thought out.

Mav 07-23-2013 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9829296)
LMAO

No one on our defensive line is remotely close to Justin Smith.

Use your brain.

Justin Smith, wasn't Justin Smith, before 2011. I have tried to tell you this time and time again. One, most of you don't even know who DeVito is. You don't know what he can do. He has the same kind of MOTOR, as Justin Smith.

Clay, you are outclassed, and outwitted. Its no wonder you want reinforcements. I keep killing you with facts.

Hammock Parties 07-23-2013 12:18 PM

You idiot. Justin Smith had 65 career sacks going into 2011.

We have NO ONE like that on our defensive line. Period.

The Chiefs will be lucky to get 10 sacks from their starting defensive line this year in it's entirety.

ChiefsCountry 07-23-2013 12:19 PM

Yeah no one on here knows anything about Justin Smith even though he played at Mizzou and is from the state of Missouri. :rolleyes:

Mav 07-23-2013 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9829317)
You idiot. Justin Smith had 65 career sacks going into 2011.

We have NO ONE like that on our defensive line. Period.

The Chiefs will be lucky to get 10 sacks from their starting defensive line this year in it's entirety.

Hi. Again. let me educate you. He spent his first years with the Cinci bengals, in the 4-3, as a defensive end. Lol, and I have stated, Haloti Ngata, JJ Watt, Justin Smith, are the EXCEPTIONS in the 3-4, not the rule......

Stop, EMBARRASSING YOURSELF. Justin Smith, did not make the 2011 49ers defense that elite. Navarro Bowman, Aldon Smith, Carlos Rogers having a LOCK DOWN OUT OF EXPERIENCE YEAR, Dashon Goldson, Tarrell Brown, Ahmad Brooks, all had CAREER YEARS.........

They capitalized on every single opportunity to get turnovers. They played with the Short field because the OFFENSE didn't turn the ball over, and if they didn't complete a 3rd down, they still had a GREAT PUNTER, to bury the opposing team in their own territory.

Lol, there is so much you don't know young grasshopper. BWHAHAHAHAHAHA. It just keeps getting better.

Hammock Parties 07-23-2013 12:26 PM

You just tried to lie about Justin Smith and I caught you.

The dude has been a badass his entire career.

You are a liar, a deceiver, and you will be destroyed.

Jakemall 07-23-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9829317)
You idiot. Justin Smith had 65 career sacks going into 2011.

We have NO ONE like that on our defensive line. Period.

The Chiefs will be lucky to get 10 sacks from their starting defensive line this year in it's entirety.

Probably true. But one can hope that line will stop the run and use the LBs to create pressure. That's what I'm hearing the coaches have in mind this offseason.


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