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staylor26 04-21-2020 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14921575)
Maybe but then you run the risk of the Chargers swapping out with Gettleman, since the giants are going OT.

I don’t think think anybody wants to have to give up extra picks to take a risk on Tua.

All the draft guys are saying no trades at 3/4 is more likely than not.

BryanBusby 04-21-2020 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14921575)
Maybe but then you run the risk of the Chargers swapping out with Gettleman, since the giants are going OT.

Sure. Tua isn't a can't miss prospect.

Mecca 04-21-2020 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14921576)
I'll be honest - I'd feel compelled to root for them if they did.

That's balls or bust all the way. You're gonna need a top 10 QB at worst to sneak past Mahomes (and that presumes your roster is better than his). I don't think Love will ever be that guy, but he does have the physical tools to develop at that level.

But the weird thing about this draft, as deep as it is, I don't see a slam dunk pick at 5. Maybe Andrew Thomas? I'm not a Simmons stan (or at least I don't see him as being an obvious top 5 guy). Jeudy and Lamb aren't top 5 guys, are they?

I mean if Young and Okudah are off the board, who's the obvious pick at 5?

For Miami?

It's Thomas if it's not a QB. Maybe Brown, or Wills if you like him more than Thomas.

Mecca 04-21-2020 03:49 PM

To be very real with you guys, I don't think Detroit is taking Okudah, if you value CB that high why trade Slay?

I think Simmons or Darrick Brown are much more realistic picks there.

staylor26 04-21-2020 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14921576)
I'll be honest - I'd feel compelled to root for them if they did.

That's balls or bust all the way. You're gonna need a top 10 QB at worst to sneak past Mahomes (and that presumes your roster is better than his). I don't think Love will ever be that guy, but he does have the physical tools to develop at that level.

But the weird thing about this draft, as deep as it is, I don't see a slam dunk pick at 5. Maybe Andrew Thomas? I'm not a Simmons stan (or at least I don't see him as being an obvious top 5 guy). Jeudy and Lamb aren't top 5 guys, are they?

I mean if Young and Okudah are off the board, who's the obvious pick at 5?

It would probably have to be the top OT on their board.

BryanBusby 04-21-2020 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14921582)
To be very real with you guys, I don't think Detroit is taking Okudah, if you value CB that high why trade Slay?

I think Simmons or Darrick Brown are much more realistic picks there.

I agree. I think they're locked in on Derrick Brown.

Mecca 04-21-2020 03:53 PM

I think Simmons is going to end up in some odd place no one really is mocking him too, Carolina, Arizona...

Also I'm 99.9 sure that Cleveland is trading out of their pick.

DJ's left nut 04-21-2020 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14921586)
I agree. I think they're locked in on Derrick Brown.

Blech.

Brown is not Aaron Donald. Is he even Deforest Buckner?

I see more of a Grady Jarrett type - big, powerful man to be sure. A guy that can definitely anchor your interior. But...to what effect? He's not much of a pass-rushing threat.

I mean I guess if you can get Jurrell Casey you're probably gonna be better off than a lot of teams end up, but that seems like you're setting the bar pretty low from the start.

Maybe I'm just not being fair to Brown. I think he's being viewed through a 2010 decision lens by many (maybe 2000). He's more of a run defender in a league that's going heavy on the pass.

Shields68 04-21-2020 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14921578)
I don’t think think anybody wants to have to give up extra picks to take a risk on Tua.

All the draft guys are saying no trades at 3/4 is more likely than not.

Guess if I was Detroit, I would be just wanting one of Miami's 2nds to move up. Which is a cheap price to pay to be able to guarantee drafting the QB that you want. I mean which ever QB they take your already betting 3-4 years of the franchise on. Surely they do not want to lose the top QB. Unless it is Love then it will be an interesting draft at the top.

Further anything Detroit gets from Miami is probably gravy.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-21-2020 04:01 PM

You think HB is telling Veach he should drafts a LSU player. Either Delpit, Fulton or Queen?

Mecca 04-21-2020 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14921601)
Blech.

Brown is not Aaron Donald. Is he even Deforest Buckner?

I see more of a Grady Jarrett type - big, powerful man to be sure. A guy that can definitely anchor your interior. But...to what effect? He's not much of a pass-rushing threat.

I mean I guess if you can get Jurrell Casey you're probably gonna be better off than a lot of teams end up, but that seems like you're setting the bar pretty low from the start.

Maybe I'm just not being fair to Brown. I think he's being viewed through a 2010 decision lens by many (maybe 2000). He's more of a run defender in a league that's going heavy on the pass.

He's a really safe prospect for a DT, he has a hell of a motor and he sheds pretty well. He won't go any lower than 7.

DJ's left nut 04-21-2020 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14921582)
To be very real with you guys, I don't think Detroit is taking Okudah, if you value CB that high why trade Slay?

I think Simmons or Darrick Brown are much more realistic picks there.

Because Slay was expensive, wanted more and was getting pissed off at the organization.

If Kinlaw fell, would you be shocked to see the 49ers use the pick they got for Buckner on Kinlaw? I wouldn't - a 1 for 1 replacement (ideally) that costs a lot less.

I think Detroit would be silly to pass on Okudah. Then again, the NFC North isn't exactly a murderers row at QB or WR. Even Rodgers has become little more than a rich man's Alex Smith. Man he was weird to watch last year.

Mecca 04-21-2020 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 14921606)
Guess if I was Detroit, I would be just wanting one of Miami's 2nds to move up. Which is a cheap price to pay to be able to guarantee drafting the QB that you want. I mean which ever QB they take your already betting 3-4 years of the franchise on. Surely they do not want to lose the QB they plan on taking.

Even though I don't think Tua is a slam dunk prospect, I'd take him 10 out of 10 times over Herbert, Herbert physically looks like Trevor Lawrence and then plays like Derek Carr.

Mecca 04-21-2020 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14921609)
Because Slay was expensive, wanted more and was getting pissed off at the organization.

If Kinlaw fell, would you be shocked to see the 49ers use the pick they got for Buckner on Kinlaw? I wouldn't - a 1 for 1 replacement (ideally) that costs a lot less.

I think Detroit would be silly to pass on Okudah. Then again, the NFC North isn't exactly a murderers row at QB or WR. Even Rodgers has become little more than a rich man's Alex Smith. Man he was weird to watch last year.

The 49ers are acting like they want out of their picks so I dunno, Kinlaw is a weird prospect if you buy into the injury shit he could fall, or he could go as high as 9.

DJ's left nut 04-21-2020 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14921611)
Even though I don't think Tua is a slam dunk prospect, I'd take him 10 out of 10 times over Herbert, Herbert physically looks like Trevor Lawrence and then plays like Derek Carr.

Ouch.

I mean...not wrong. Just a brutally backhanded takedown.


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