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JPH83 12-03-2024 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17839388)
For reference.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One day we will learn to pick up an E/T on the right side. Today is not that day.<br><br>Trey is put in an impossible situation every game. Knows it’s coming, knows he’s going to get no help from Jawaan, and is the one who gets picked and has to deal with DEs teeing off on him. Sucks.</p>&mdash; Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) <a href="https://twitter.com/MitchSchwartz71/status/1860790127846662238?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That’s not true. We were pretty good in my time. They’ve been a much bigger issue the last two years because Jawaan uses the same pass set every time where he sets super deep and allows the DE to get inside pressure. Until he changes it there’s nothing that will improve. <a href="https://t.co/3FrXXiosO1">https://t.co/3FrXXiosO1</a></p>&mdash; Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) <a href="https://twitter.com/MitchSchwartz71/status/1860792303197303175?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'm with Mitchell

RunKC 12-03-2024 02:35 PM

They probably see how things go this year with Humphries. If he’s good you bring him back. If he’s not you go after Cam Robinson who played in our offense in Jacksonville like Jawaan.

A 2 year deal with the 2nd being an option is good so you can see how Kingsley is coming along.

Sorry fellas I think the draft is gonna be damn near impossible for us to move up that far. Would take a massive overpay.

FloridaMan88 12-03-2024 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17839388)
For reference.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One day we will learn to pick up an E/T on the right side. Today is not that day.<br><br>Trey is put in an impossible situation every game. Knows it’s coming, knows he’s going to get no help from Jawaan, and is the one who gets picked and has to deal with DEs teeing off on him. Sucks.</p>&mdash; Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) <a href="https://twitter.com/MitchSchwartz71/status/1860790127846662238?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That’s not true. We were pretty good in my time. They’ve been a much bigger issue the last two years because Jawaan uses the same pass set every time where he sets super deep and allows the DE to get inside pressure. Until he changes it there’s nothing that will improve. <a href="https://t.co/3FrXXiosO1">https://t.co/3FrXXiosO1</a></p>&mdash; Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) <a href="https://twitter.com/MitchSchwartz71/status/1860792303197303175?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So much for the narrative that “Taylor is solid, except for his (numerous) penalties”.

TomBarndtsTwin 12-03-2024 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17839397)
Donovan Smith isn't gonna be on this team. If they wanted him they would have brought him in weeks ago. He'd be worse than Morris was against the Raiders.

I'm not saying it would necessarily be the Chiefs first choice, but if Mahomes wants him over Morris back there and there's no other realistic option, then I could see it happening.

Keeping Mahomes happy is definitely a thing.

Chief Pagan 12-03-2024 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 View Post
Which is understandable.

What is not understandable is why the Chiefs entered this season with only Wanya Morris as a back-up option if Kingsley wasn’t ready


Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17839361)
I still don't get why we didn't push harder for Tyron Smith or someone like him.


It seems last year was the year of no WR's and this is the year of no LT so far.


3 Peat is depending on DJ right now.


KC fans: You got to do whatever it takes to fix the WR position!

KC drafts Rice, Worthy, and signs Hollywood, resigns CJ, apparently tries to trade up for a tackle but fails and ends up rolling the dice at that position.

KC fans: Why does the team have holes in other positions like LT!

RunKC 12-03-2024 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17839357)
Or how he got the starting job with the multitude of issues he had. He had multiple fatal flaws exposed against the Bengals and Broncos.

This team doesn’t have a DE anywhere near as good as Hendrickson or Bonitto.

He probably looked good blocking FAU and Danna

Sassy Squatch 12-03-2024 02:48 PM

Jones?

Wisconsin_Chief 12-03-2024 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17839421)
They probably see how things go this year with Humphries. If he’s good you bring him back. If he’s not you go after Cam Robinson who played in our offense in Jacksonville like Jawaan.

A 2 year deal with the 2nd being an option is good so you can see how Kingsley is coming along.

Sorry fellas I think the draft is gonna be damn near impossible for us to move up that far. Would take a massive overpay.

Totally forgot Cam Robinson is a free agent after this year. Since Darrisaw will be coming back for Minnesota, they’ll obviously let Cam walk. That’s your guy if Humphries doesn’t work out. You’ll have to drastically overpay most likely, but you go get him at all costs if DJ doesn’t prove to be the guy.

I don’t think we have much to worry about. When Mahomes snaps, the Chiefs seem to finally stop dicking around and make changes. I think there’s zero chance they come out of next offseason without a legit, proven LT.

FloridaMan88 12-03-2024 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17839430)
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 View Post
Which is understandable.

What is not understandable is why the Chiefs entered this season with only Wanya Morris as a back-up option if Kingsley wasn’t ready





KC fans: You got to do whatever it takes to fix the WR position!

KC drafts Rice, Worthy, and signs Hollywood, resigns CJ, apparently tries to trade up for a tackle but fails and ends up rolling the dice at that position.

KC fans: Why does the team have holes in other positions like LT!

A veteran stopgap LT would have been sufficient.

Wisconsin_Chief 12-03-2024 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17839438)
A veteran stopgap LT would have been sufficient.

Could have had Cam Robinson at the trade deadline for next to nothing.

That should have happened.

Sassy Squatch 12-03-2024 02:52 PM

Agreed. Especially since the Jaguars ate most of the remaining salary.

Dunerdr 12-03-2024 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17839297)
Annoyingly, for the amount of shit we gave Baltimore for drafting Rosengarten over Kingsley, he's been pretty damn solid this year especially for a 2nd day rookie OT.

But really, after Alt, Latham and Rosengarten, nobody in the class has really established themselves. Coleman has the job but by default more than performance. He's been pretty iffy in his own right.

Didn't Rosengarten have short arms keeping him from being KC eligible?

crispystl 12-03-2024 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17839373)
It'll be Thuney.

Once you make that move they did Sunday, there's no goin back.

Wasn't Wanya playing guard some in camp? Any chance they just swap Wanya and Thuney at some point?

Gary Cooper 12-03-2024 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17839387)
I was shocked when Kingsley was named starter. Pleasantly surprised because I assumed he would NOT be ready.


As smart as this team is, I still wonder about how we miss on guys we can see in practice like Toney, Skyy, or Kingsley.

He must have looked good enough in camp for them to assume he can handle NFL pass rushers. He looked fine the opening game of the season. The next game was a disaster and he got benched.

The coaching staff and Veach also assumed last year's WR core would be more productive with Toney, MVS, and Moore as the major weapons, with Rice chipping in as a rookie. I don't think they expected Toney or Moore to be flaming turds. They hit on Rice at least.

Veach has done a better job than other GMs but that doesn't mean he hasn't made mistakes obviously at other positions. He's drafted four tackles which haven't panned out. My guess is he'll invest in a first rounder in the next draft at LT or maybe RT. Drafting them in other rounds hasn't worked out.

DJ's left nut 12-03-2024 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17839388)
For reference.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One day we will learn to pick up an E/T on the right side. Today is not that day.<br><br>Trey is put in an impossible situation every game. Knows it’s coming, knows he’s going to get no help from Jawaan, and is the one who gets picked and has to deal with DEs teeing off on him. Sucks.</p>&mdash; Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) <a href="https://twitter.com/MitchSchwartz71/status/1860790127846662238?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That’s not true. We were pretty good in my time. They’ve been a much bigger issue the last two years because Jawaan uses the same pass set every time where he sets super deep and allows the DE to get inside pressure. Until he changes it there’s nothing that will improve. <a href="https://t.co/3FrXXiosO1">https://t.co/3FrXXiosO1</a></p>&mdash; Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) <a href="https://twitter.com/MitchSchwartz71/status/1860792303197303175?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Schwartz never played a game alongside Smith. And the OTs he did play alongside (Wylie - agile enough to move to OT and LDT) were both quite a bit more agile than Smith. Smith, for everything he does well, isn't strong laterally. Never has been. He's a mauler -- those two weren't.

Additionally, Schwartz was a HoF caliber player who, due to health and wasting away his first several years in a god-awful franchise, never got the credit for being as technically sound as he was. It's pretty damn unfair for him to be saying "Well I could do it..."

Yeah, well Bruce Matthews played 300 games without breaking down and you couldn't, Mitch - does that make you a bitch? No, it means that you're great - someone else was better. And?

It's pretty ridiculous to pretend like Taylor should just be able to go back a step and protect Mahomes who has dropped waaaaaay back for the vast majority of his Chiefs career. And again, if Mitch wants to hold Taylor to his standard, why isn't it fair to hold Smith to Thuney's standard? Because those LTs aren't doing Thuney a single damn favor over there and HE'S not getting ripped by stunts.

Smith isn't a good fit here. Good player - might be a great one in the right system. This just isn't it.


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