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Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=357091)

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Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk (Post 17969380)

Would you take Jackson at 21.5 a year for 4 years?

I honestly don't know.

It's a risk. Man, if it paid off you'd be in really good shape. But it's definitely a risk.

Robinson seems higher floor, lower ceiling?

Stanley I'd be shocked if he's available, but if he is, it's because of his injury history and that's not going to get better.

Matthews isn't going anywhere. He's not that expensive, and they have a young QB that's going to benefit from having some veteran leadership on the line.

So I don't know. I really don't.

I know draft picks aren’t locks…..Kingsley. If I was Veach, I do whatever I could to move high enough in the first to nab Irsay. Don’t like the idea of paying a premium for another FA LT. That hasn’t gone well for us. It never did at QB and it’s not like we’re gonna find another Roaf.

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17969365)

We can try to band-aid it for a year with a Humphries and hope Kingsley improves. But I don't feel great about that if Humphries couldn't even get on the field after watching Thuney (out of position) and Caliendo getting ass ****ed without lube every down in the Super Bowl.

Are we really that sure it wasn't simply because of Reids dogmatic stubborness?

Humphries should've been in after halftime, not that it would've mattered but it at least would've proven this current staff were not clinging to a failing concept like absolute reeruns

Yeah Andy needs a wake up call, a shakeup, new voices, new blood... we didn't adjust worth a DAMN after halftime, didn't do a damn thing differently

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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17968828)

I think a vet stopgap that could be had cheap is Terron Armstead. Had a great year actually and Miami could be looking to send out vet contracts atm with young guys waiting to take over. Armstead isn't the future but would be a hell of a lot better than what we have.

Who knows, if Tyreek does something stupid and says he wants to go back to KC and scares all other teams away we could get both for pennies on the dollar.

I heard Gehrig Deiter on 810 say Tyreek told him at the super bowl he wants to come back to KC.

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17969376)

You guys have to understand that other than an elite QB, a plus Left Tackle is the hardest thing to find in the NFL.

Any team that has one, isn't going to get rid of him. It's a cornerstone position that's incredibly hard to win without. You don't ditch them. If your team is otherwise any good, you especially won't, because you won't be drafting high enough to get one.

The only guys that come free are 1)old 2) expensive and the team is cap strapped or 3) not good enough for the team to pay in their eyes.

We got OBJ because the Ravens had Stanley and didn't want to pay TWO Left tackles. The Bengals got him because he thought he was worth more money than we offered and signed for less with Cinci cuz pride.

So.

It's over the hill broke dicks and hope Kingsley develops, or it's over pay for a Jackson, a Robinson, or a Stanley.

All have their issues and risks.

Unfortunately, this is spot on. Now I'm sick.

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17969377)

This is a good point. I wasn't aware he had T-Rex arms to that degree.

Yeah, but he’s also 6-7/330, so he has the bulk and ability to reset against power. So the arms are a little less of an issue than it might be.

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17969376)

Great post.

So if I’m going the FA route give me the cheaper, younger, healthier option in Jackson

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17969347)

I’m not saying I would be totally against it, I just don’t see this regime investing big money in a 32.5 in arm LT.

If he makes it to the open market and the Chiefs aren't heavily involved because his arms are an inch or so off prototypical then Veach and Reid both need a kick to the dick.

He's developed year to year, he's young, he's healthy, and he's pretty ****ing good.

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17969455)

Yeah, but he’s also 6-7/330, so he has the bulk and ability to reset against power. So the arms are a little less of an issue than it might be.

Plus, he’s actually played LT decently well in the NFL.

The Chiefs are trying to project what he’ll be. They have a pretty good idea.

Get a LT and a HB...evreything else will take care itself... stop playing the 1 score game. You''l get bit.

Good either way. I’d rather bring DJ Humphries back for cheap rather than pay this broke dick any semblance of our cap.

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He's another Raven for life...stay away

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17966330)

Prepare for Cam Robinson then. Conerly and Ersery weren’t even in Brugler’s top 30 prospects. I don’t want projects anymore

Not necessarily the end-all-be-all evaluator either though and I respect Brugler as much as anyone.

He's the 13th prospect on ESPN's board with Simmons at 10th and them being the top two OL prospects.
Zeurlein has him with a higher rank than Simmons.

Shit is all over the place.

All I know is this, way back when Andy Reid said "I want two offensive tackles, a quarterback, two pass rushers, two corners, and I'll figure the rest out."

Well.... we have a Mahomes at QB, two pass rushers (Karlaftis and Jones), two corners (Watson and MCDuffie) and a passable RT in Taylor.

Reid will be fully up Veach's ass to get this done.

I fully expect the options to be:

1. Alaric Jackson
2. Ronnie Stanley
3. Re-sign DJ Humphries
4. Dan Moore Jr

If not 1 or 2 then I think we will try to draft another OT.

I expect Simmons to be a top-10 pick. He's the best OT in this draft and the only absolute guy at the position in this draft. I could be off base with that projection because of his injury but I've seen shit happen. I mean, you better be IN IN if you're going up to get this guy because it's going to cost a fortune.
I do not think that Will Campbell will be seen as an OT. He has TRex arms. There are serious concerns he will come in well under 33".
Banks and Conerly aren't too dissimilar although I see more chatter about Banks at OG. Whichever one goes top-15 probably pushes the other to top-25. You better be damned sure about either of them if you're spending two 1s and 3 or a 1, 2, and 3 to go up to 15/16 for one. I think if one might make it to 24 and that lets you slide up with Minnesota by swapping our 3/66 for their 3/97.
Ersery is a borderline 1st rounder and not a great fit for a team that passes a lot IMO. Foot speed in pass pro is a concern. I don't think I'd feel any better about taking him here than I would taking Anthony Belton in the 2nd or 3rd round.
Jackson from OSU as the LG to LT convert just doesn't jive with me either. He labors in his kick slide and his foot speed going to the pros is a concern. I love him at LG though, beast.
Savaiinaea and Membou are RTs at best, probably RGs.

I've come to the sad realization that we have to hope for another franchise to kind of drop the ball or get really lucky that a guy drops within a reasonable range for us in the draft.

I'd burn picks to get to 15/16. I don't think I could burn the picks to get to 10 though.

not sure how OBJ went from suck to solid..revisionist baseline type stuff I guess

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Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 17969526)

not sure how OBJ went from suck to solid..revisionist baseline type stuff I guess

When was OB solid? he wans to be an LT, doesn't mean he is.