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Demonpenz 03-04-2010 03:30 PM

I watched something the other day where this lady was starving herself to get to 120 or so then she went back to eating 1200 cals just enough to get nurishment and still working out she is fat again, sometimes life is a bitch haha

Silock 03-04-2010 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie (Post 6575688)
wrong. that article is complete dog shit

Wrong, as in fat isn't gross?

Silock 03-04-2010 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NewPhin (Post 6575689)
I agree with the comment that talks about cultural values. He has the picture of the Greek sculptures, which does a good job of showing the historical appreciation of musculature. But there have been times when, at least with women, flab was sexy.

There's a difference between a woman with padding and a woman who weighs 200 lbs.

Brock 03-04-2010 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 6576792)
Wrong, as in fat isn't gross?

Are titties gross to you?

Silock 03-04-2010 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6576172)
You're judging everybody on your own experience. I do not agree with that at all. The overriding factor for a lot of people is their genetic makeup, and for some people, they could exercise 24-7 and eat a lot less and they're still going to be fat. Maybe less fat than they were, but still fat. The article I'm responding to says something to the effect that "fat people are selfish" and I take issue with that, because it's a load of horse shit. I know skinny, fit people who are some of the worst people in the world.

It comes down to calories in vs. calories out. They're not just manufacturing fat out of thin air. As long as you are burning more calories than you take in, you will lose fat.

I don't think he was making a value judgment on the character of those people that are fat, though.

Silock 03-04-2010 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6576802)
Are titties gross to you?

Depends on the size :)

Brock 03-04-2010 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 6576806)
It comes down to calories in vs. calories out. They're not just manufacturing fat out of thin air. As long as you are burning more calories than you take in, you will lose fat.

I don't think he was making a value judgment on the character of those people that are fat, though.

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2. It’s a signal of unfairness (and ultimately your death because of the fat person):
Fat people are killing you. That's a value judgement about the character of fat people.

Your first statement isn't true for everybody.

Silock 03-04-2010 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6576825)
Fat people are killing you. That's a value judgement about the character of fat people.

He was talking about the evolutionary signal, not being literal.

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Your first statement isn't true for everybody.
Really? How could people who eat under their BMR manufacture fat out of thin air? If they are eating under BMR, they should be burning fat, no matter what kind of food they eat. The essential organs and lean body mass will get the energy from both food and stored energy sources. If their bodies are still manufacturing fat, either their organs aren't getting enough energy (in which case, they're going to die) or it's coming from thin air. It's not possible to starve your organs of energy for any length of time and still be alive.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-04-2010 10:28 PM

So how long should one lift before upping the reps or the weight?

Hammock Parties 03-04-2010 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6577574)
So how long should one lift before upping the reps or the weight?

Just do trial and error. If you up the weight and you can handle it, do it! I'd back off if you're lifting to failure on each set, though.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-04-2010 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6577586)
Just do trial and error. If you up the weight and you can handle it, do it! I'd back off if you're lifting to failure on each set, though.

How often should I lift to failure? Honestly I don't do it much. It's incredibly challenging, but I don't fail on each exercise let alone each set.

Hammock Parties 03-04-2010 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6577588)
How often should I lift to failure? Honestly I don't do it much. It's incredibly challenging, but I don't fail on each exercise let alone each set.

I usually find that if I lift to failure it's on my last set when I'm most fatigued (per exercise, not on the last set of the entire workout). I've been getting pretty close the last few days since I switched back to 50-pound dumbbells.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-04-2010 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6577592)
I usually find that if I lift to failure it's on my last set when I'm most fatigued (per exercise, not on the last set of the entire workout). I've been getting pretty close the last few days since I switched back to 50-pound dumbbells.

Then I should definitely try and up my weight. How about reps? I'm doing 8, and I'm in my 3rd week. Really the 2nd real week though, the 1st week I really slacked with the soreness.

RedThat 03-04-2010 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6577588)
How often should I lift to failure? Honestly I don't do it much. It's incredibly challenging, but I don't fail on each exercise let alone each set.

Lifting to failure should be done when you're trying to increase muscle mass.

So if you're doing forms of training that involve putting on muscle, i.e., conventional training or superset training, lifting to failure is ideal.

but if you're doing pyramid training, where you decrease the weight and increase the number of repitions as you move along from set to set, you don't have to train to failure.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-04-2010 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6577599)
Lifting to failure should be done when you're trying to increase muscle mass.

So if you're doing forms of training that involve putting on muscle, i.e., conventional training or superset training, lifting to failure is ideal.

but if you're doing pyramid training, where you decrease the weight and increase the number of repitions as you move along from set to set, you don't have to train to failure.

I'm literally just getting started and don't know anything about it. Thanks for the information.


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