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Messier 08-16-2013 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9889898)
You just said that Chiefs fans don't have decades of learned pessimism, though.

I don't think they do. Playoff failure stings. I don't think it's the same demoralizing beat down as not getting a whiff in more than a generation.

Recently it's been bad, sure. Do you look back on the '90s with utter embarrassment?

keg in kc 08-16-2013 11:14 AM

The Chiefs haven't won a playoff game in 20 years. For the last 15 years simply making the playoffs has been a rarity. Since 1998 they have a single, solitary 13-win season (which was a full decade ago), two 10-win seasons, two 9-win seasons and a single .500 year. On the flip side they have 9 losing seasons including two 2-win seasons and two 4-win seasons.

One thing I didn't realize: in all that time they've had back-to-back winning seasons just once (2005-2006). Whereas they've had concurrent losing seasons 3 times (2000-2001, 2007-2009 and 2011-2012) and were under .500 5 of the last 6 years.

I don't see how the fanbase can't be demoralized at this point. There are now adult Chiefs fans who can't even remember the team's last playoff win. If they were even alive for it.

The 90s are a memory that grows more distant every day, and it won't be all that long before the Vermeil years begin to fade that way, as well. I know they've already started to for me.

jd1020 08-16-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9889910)
I don't think they do. Playoff failure stings. I don't think it's the same demoralizing beat down as not getting a whiff in more than a generation.

Recently it's been bad, sure. Do you look back on the '90s with utter embarrassment?

Do I look back at the 90's and care? Nope. That team was the Colts of the 90's, only problem was they never won a SB.

You're an idiot if you think Chiefs fans have nothing to be pessimistic about. The Royals may have it worse but both teams leave reason for their fans to doubt that they will ever amount to shit.

Marcellus 08-16-2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9889880)
False comparison. Logic fail.

Not at all. Perfect example of simplistic thinking.

keg in kc 08-16-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9889973)
Not at all. Perfect example of simplistic thinking.

Except for the fact that you didn't even grasp what my thinking was. If you were trying to parody yourself, though, then kudos.

RealSNR 08-16-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9889973)
Not at all. Perfect example of simplistic thinking.

Splatbass would rather have 7-9 than a 2-12 season plus Pioli getting fired.

It has NOTHING to do with preferences in music, and it has everything to do with not being able to look to the future for the GOOD of something you love.

Messier 08-16-2013 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9889965)
Do I look back at the 90's and care? Nope. That team was the Colts of the 90's, only problem was they never won a SB.

You're an idiot if you think Chiefs fans have nothing to be pessimistic about. The Royals may have it worse but both teams leave reason for their fans to doubt that they will ever amount to shit.

Where did I say anything about Chiefs fans having nothing to be pessimistic about?

aturnis 08-16-2013 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9889503)
Dumb.

reeruned

Messier 08-16-2013 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9890051)
reeruned

Yes.

aturnis 08-16-2013 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9889910)
I don't think they do. Playoff failure stings. I don't think it's the same demoralizing beat down as not getting a whiff in more than a generation.

Recently it's been bad, sure. Do you look back on the '90s with utter embarrassment?

Right here.

Marcellus 08-16-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9889991)
Except for the fact that you didn't even grasp what my thinking was. If you were trying to parody yourself, though, then kudos.

Not really it goes like this -

Just because you cant actively root for your team to lose does not mean you don't want a franchise QB.

The 2 things are not mutually inclusive.

There are people that believe they are, and thats ridiculous. Period.

You don't want the team to lose = you are perfectly happy with the last 20 years of Chiefs football and don't care if we ever get a franchise QB.

It just not that simple.And this is coming from someone who rooted like hell to lose out in 2012 because I knew it was Pioli's ticket out the door.

simplistic

oversimplifying complex problems; making unrealistically simple judgments or analyses

9er guy 08-16-2013 01:02 PM

"Alex vs Geno! It's on!"






























No it's not....

Setsuna 08-16-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9890350)
"Alex vs Geno! It's on!"


No it's not....

:facepalm: Get out of this thread. You bring nothing to the discussion.

Messier 08-16-2013 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9890104)
Right here.

Thank you.

SanDiego49er 08-16-2013 03:31 PM

Alex will. He's experienced. On a team on the rise. With a good coaching staff. Geno might not even make it. Plus Geno is on a bad team.


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