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BryanBusby 04-21-2020 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14921601)
Blech.

Brown is not Aaron Donald. Is he even Deforest Buckner?

I see more of a Grady Jarrett type - big, powerful man to be sure. A guy that can definitely anchor your interior. But...to what effect? He's not much of a pass-rushing threat.

I mean I guess if you can get Jurrell Casey you're probably gonna be better off than a lot of teams end up, but that seems like you're setting the bar pretty low from the start.

Maybe I'm just not being fair to Brown. I think he's being viewed through a 2010 decision lens by many (maybe 2000). He's more of a run defender in a league that's going heavy on the pass.
He's a space eater which is what they need to run that antiquated Defense. I think he provides a bit more than Grady Jarrett, but it's more of not ****ing up the #3 overall pick. He's a pretty safe choice.

DJ's left nut 04-21-2020 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14921615)
He's a space eater which is what they need to run that antiquated Defense. I think he provides a bit more than Grady Jarrett, but it's more of not ****ing up the #3 overall pick. He's a pretty safe choice.
{has Tyson Jackson flashbacks....}

I mean seriously - is this not EXACTLY what we heard about Jackson? Safe pick, anchor to the Patriots style 3-4, maybe a little early but you're gonna ensure you get a good player...blahblahblah

I'm not saying he'll be Jackson, but the same arguments apply against that thought process. Taking a guy at a position that's less critical because he's safer is a fine idea for a team picking in the 20s.

But if you're in the top 5 you just proper suck and 'safe' ain't gonna do anything for you.

Shields68 04-21-2020 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14921611)
Even though I don't think Tua is a slam dunk prospect, I'd take him 10 out of 10 times over Herbert, Herbert physically looks like Trevor Lawrence and then plays like Derek Carr.
Seems to be a lot of chatter that they like Herbert. Which probably just smoke screen for them really wanting Tua. But with 5 picks in the first two rounds not sure why they don't move up unless Detroit wants multiple ones, then yeah I guess I would sit at 5 and let it play out. Because I don't see the Chargers paying that. They might be happy with a LT.

Mecca 04-21-2020 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14921623)
{has Tyson Jackson flashbacks....}

I mean seriously - is this not EXACTLY what we heard about Jackson? Safe pick, anchor to the Patriots style 3-4, maybe a little early but you're gonna ensure you get a good player...blahblahblah

I'm not saying he'll be Jackson, but the same arguments apply against that thought process. Taking a guy at a position that's less critical because he's safer is a fine idea for a team picking in the 20s.

But if you're in the top 5 you just proper suck and 'safe' ain't gonna do anything for you.
Well he isn't that kind of reach, Carolina is his floor for where he's picked. Just lots of power there, he doesn't have Kinlaws pash rush upside though but he also has way less bust upside.

Mecca 04-21-2020 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 14921629)
Seems to be a lot of chatter that they like Herbert. Which probably just smoke screen for them really wanting Tua. But with 5 picks in the first two rounds not sure why they don't move up unless Detroit wants multiple ones, then yeah I guess I would sit at 5 and let it play out. Because I don't see the Chargers paying that. They might be happy with a LT.
The Chargers can't really go into a season with Tyrod Taylor at QB....

Shields68 04-21-2020 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14921634)
The Chargers can't really go into a season with Tyrod Taylor at QB....
You would think but Lynn just might... They sort of have a win now team. Not sure either of the top QB's are ready to take a team to the playoffs next year.

Maybe once the dust settles some they bring Cam in and work him out. To see if he is able to run like the old Cam.

Easy 6 04-21-2020 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14921634)
The Chargers can't really go into a season with Tyrod Taylor at QB....
I’d bet he starts the season, but as soon as he loses consecutive games Lynn will yank him for whichever young hotshot they pick

The Franchise 04-21-2020 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14921634)
The Chargers can't really go into a season with Tyrod Taylor at QB....
He did put up 3000 yards and more than 20 TDs the last time he was a starter with Lynn. I could see it...

Mecca 04-21-2020 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14921660)
He did put up 3000 yards and more than 20 TDs the last time he was a starter with Lynn. I could see it...
Well that is just another wasted year and year closer to them either losing or paying a ton of talented players, good luck.

DJ's left nut 04-21-2020 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14921660)
He did put up 3000 yards and more than 20 TDs the last time he was a starter with Lynn. I could see it...
He's a wholly adequate placeholder. A distributor, so to speak.

He won't take much off the table. They won't win anything of note with him, but they won't lose 12 games either.

He was a .500 quarterback w/ less talent around him in Buffalo than he'll have in SD. He'll be in a tougher division so that may take some starch out him, but they could win anywhere from 6 to 10 games with him, IMO.

He's a watered down Alex Smith, so a slightly lower floor and slightly lower ceiling, but pretty steady.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-21-2020 04:33 PM
I think we’re set on TE. We got Kelce and possibly Tony G coming back plus Seals Jones.

DJ's left nut 04-21-2020 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14921663)
Well that is just another wasted year and year closer to them either losing or paying a ton of talented players, good luck.
Apart from Cam recapturing his old form, there aren't any options that are likely to raise their ceiling in 2020. Maybe Jameis but I understand why they'd be wary of bringing on a more extreme version of the guy they just moved on from (though I'd chance it, personally - he's their only real shot at being truly relevant next season).

DJ's left nut 04-21-2020 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14921669)
I think we’re set on TE. We got Kelce and possibly Tony G coming back plus Seals Jones.
Why - we're probably in pretty good shape at QB as well.

:shrug::rolleyes:

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-21-2020 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14921677)
Why - we're probably in pretty good shape at QB as well.

:shrug::rolleyes:
Eh need a solid backup. I don’t trust Henne. Wish Moore was back

O.city 04-21-2020 04:55 PM
I think the quick passing game hurt brown as a pass rusher

He seems like a fletcher cox type player to me


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