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O.city 05-14-2018 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13556342)
If you look at that list he is top 10 in almost every stat and when you are talking SO/per 9 etc...that's not a longevity stat.

Actually as average as he has been for years it hurts his overall stats in some ways. Pretty impressive he is still in the top 10 on many of those lists.

Chris Carpenter is on many of those lists too even with all the injuries. Miss that guy.
SO/9 isn't a bad stat but just looking at who he's with there, eh.

I like Waino, and his last 5 years taints my memory of him I'm sure, but he's really only had like 5 really good seasons out of 13.

He's been a good Cardinal. Probably get into the Cardinals HOF, even though I don't think he's been near the player some of the others in there have.

O.city 05-14-2018 01:41 PM
The stretch from about 08-13 was pretty legit.

O.city 05-14-2018 01:44 PM
It's been a similar thing with Pujols as well. He's fallen so hard, it's hard to remember what he was. I hate that guys hang on that long.

Frazod 05-14-2018 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13556365)
It's been a similar thing with Pujols as well. He's fallen so hard, it's hard to remember what he was. I hate that guys hang on that long.
I remember being really pissed when he went to Anaheim. Now, not so much.

BigRedChief 05-14-2018 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13556365)
It's been a similar thing with Pujols as well. He's fallen so hard, it's hard to remember what he was. I hate that guys hang on that long.
l could understand Pujols hanging around situation a little better. He had a chance at HOF history, 600 home runs and 3000 hits.

We got to see the best 11 years a baseball player has ever had. And he was on our team. When he comes back to Bush next year, he deserves the best and loudest reception any player has ever received.

O.city 05-14-2018 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13556384)
l could understand Pujols hanging around situation a little better. He had a chance at HOF history, 600 home runs and 3000 hits.

We got to see the best 11 years a baseball player has ever had. And he was on our team. When he comes back to Bush next year, he deserves the best and loudest reception any player has ever received.
I appreciate what he did in STL.

But he also chose to leave.

BigRedChief 05-14-2018 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13556406)
I appreciate what he did in STL.

But he also chose to leave.
it was just business. He still kept his charity work going in the community. He stays either Molina or Waino walks in their prime. It worked out well for us.

Frazod 05-14-2018 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13556424)
it was just business. He still kept his charity work going in the community. He stays either Molina or Waino walks in their prime. It worked out well for us.
Yep. We got the best years of his career, and the idiot **** Angels paid for them.

raybec 4 05-14-2018 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13556365)
It's been a similar thing with Pujols as well. He's fallen so hard, it's hard to remember what he was. I hate that guys hang on that long.
He's still a .304 career hitter, 620/3000/1900 rbi he's still one of the all time greats.

Marcellus 05-15-2018 01:25 PM
Good Lord almighty Carp and Fowler are just bad.

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A list of reasons explaining the root cause of the Cardinals’ offense must begin with Carpenter and Fowler. How severe are their slides? Answer: Among 171 qualifying MLB hitters, Fowler ranks 170th with a .146 batting average, and Carpenter is at No. 171 with a .145 average. Fowler ranks 165th in slugging percentage (.285), one spot above Carpenter (.282). In OPS, Carpenter (.576) is No. 162, with Fowler (.541) at No. 166.

Here’s another way to look at it. Let’s do a composite. If we combined the Fowler-Carpenter rate stats and compared 2017 to this season, this is how it looks:

2017: .252 average, .374 OBP, .467 slug, .841 OPS

2018: .146 average, .274 OBP, .283 slug, .557 OPS

Last season Fowler was 21 percent above league average offensively in park-adjusted runs created. Carpenter was slightly better at 23 percent above average.

BigRedChief 05-15-2018 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13557437)
Good Lord almighty Carp and Fowler are just bad.
Factually, no hyperbole, currently the worst two hitters in baseball.:eek:

DJ's left nut 05-15-2018 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13557534)
Factually, no hyperbole, currently the worst two hitters in baseball.:eek:
With the pitcher's spot, Perez and Kolten Wong also biting ass, the Cardinals are effectively spotting their opposition 15 outs/game.

It's staggering that they've managed to win as many as they have.

BigRedChief 05-15-2018 05:28 PM
Here's the lineup:

Tommy Pham, CF
Matt Carpenter, 1B
Jose Martinez, DH
Marcell Ozuna, LF
Jedd Gyorko, 3B
Paul DeJong, SS
Harrison Bader, RF
Kolten Wong, 2B
Carson Kelly, C

WTF is the worst hitter in baseball doing batting 2nd? You want to “get him going”? I understand that. Carp is not the worst hitter in the game. But, Bader is hot with speed. He should be batting 2nd. Let Carp get his act together down with Kelly in the lineup.


Flaherty will finally get a MLB start.:clap:

George Liquor 05-15-2018 08:14 PM
lol

kcpasco 05-15-2018 08:14 PM
Hot garbage offense. Starting pitching has been great. Bullpen has been ok. Since Matheny is bulletproof at least fire Mabry. Yuck!!


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