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poolboy 02-14-2025 11:23 PM
lets face the facts, we cant "fix" left tackle...its a floating every changing amoeba that will be constantly changing every year...There is no fix....sorry Andy

Hammock Parties 02-14-2025 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17969506)
Good either way. I’d rather bring DJ Humphries back for cheap rather than pay this broke dick any semblance of our cap.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� UPDATE ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ravens?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Ravens</a> left tackle Ronnie Stanley is expected to be out of the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> price range as he is set to become a free agent.<br><br>The soon-to-be 31 year old is projected to command a $20.7M/yr over 2 year deal.<br><br>Per, <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ByNateTaylor</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/TheFan965?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheFan965</a>. <a href="https://t.co/uYK5zevzKV">pic.twitter.com/uYK5zevzKV</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Blitz (@ChiefsBlitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsBlitz/status/1890552393957331123?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 15, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
you have to admit signing him would fix a lot of problems on offense if he stays healthy

and then lamar gets beat in the postseason again because he has no LT :LOL:

i'd laugh uproariously!

poolboy 02-14-2025 11:36 PM
Fixing LT for the Chiefs is a no win situation unless copious amounts of money are involved

xztop123 02-14-2025 11:40 PM
Get the best PASS BLOCKING TACKLE IN FREE AGENCY.

PLEASE UNDER 320 lbs.

A LIGHT PASS BLOCKING LT LIKE FISHER.

Grab a right guard in the draft and let suamatai compete with him.

Not sure about right tackle. I don’t think until we get taylor gone we will be formable at pass blocking fully. Unfortunately, I liked him when we got him.

xztop123 02-14-2025 11:42 PM
Stanley is the exact giant light pass blocking LT I’d want. His age is a concern.

DRM08 02-15-2025 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 17969609)
Stanley is the exact giant light pass blocking LT I’d want. His age is a concern.
Injury history is the bigger concern than age. Stanley is about 2 years younger than Trent Williams when Kansas City tried to get him for the 2021 season. Stanley is the Sammy Watkins of LT's. If you can keep him healthy, he's very good. But there's a pretty solid chance he misses a ton of games like Sammy did. Hard to justify the high price with this type of injury risk.

xztop123 02-15-2025 12:20 AM
Idk I never understood injury prone players. Do they just have weaker bones tendons or not take their vitamins? lol. I was injury prone in HS football but I was Xavier worthy’s size so that’s why

RaidersOftheCellar 02-15-2025 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17969531)
We've got too many holes to do that shit at this point. I'm not excited about that at all.
Too many holes compared to which teams?

If we're expecting to match the Eagles' roster, it's going to take a lot more spending and cap manipulation with void years, which they haven't done at all.

Fix LT, strengthen the DL/pass rush a little bit, find an above average RB. The rest will fall into place.

Red Dawg 02-15-2025 06:22 AM
What is it with this team and LTs. 132 college teams have them and we can't find one that's good.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-15-2025 07:07 AM
Took a look at this Puka Nacua highlight just to see what I could glean from Jackson at LT: https://youtu.be/UUnC2K1tpqk?si=xPCSci06J5r79Q6e

… and I’d need to watch a lot more in totality to be fair, but some of my reservations I think are confirmed. First, McVay does such a good job helping his tackles out and Andy should take notes especially now that are offense is built to run through WRs and not the TE.

Secondly, you’re hard pressed to find reps in there where he’s true vertical setting. Which is what Andy asks of his tackles forever now.

So you’re doing a lot of projecting and hoping it would seem if you bring a guy like that on board. I guess it’s pretty comparable to Orlando Brown in that way.

Straight, No Chaser 02-15-2025 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17969506)
Good either way. I’d rather bring DJ Humphries back for cheap rather than pay this broke dick any semblance of our cap.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� UPDATE ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ravens?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Ravens</a> left tackle Ronnie Stanley is expected to be out of the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> price range as he is set to become a free agent.<br><br>The soon-to-be 31 year old is projected to command a $20.7M/yr over 2 year deal.<br><br>Per, <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ByNateTaylor</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/TheFan965?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheFan965</a>. <a href="https://t.co/uYK5zevzKV">pic.twitter.com/uYK5zevzKV</a>

</p>&mdash; Chiefs Blitz (@ChiefsBlitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsBlitz/status/1890552393957331123?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 15, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I wouldn't count Bart out on Stanley. Nate Taylor has been getting sheet wrong since he started at the Athletic. He has no 'effing clue about any of this. After the OL getting embarrassed on the biggest stage, I expect them to aggressively explore the top FA's. The Clarks need to open up the bank this off season.

GordonGekko 02-15-2025 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Straight, No Chaser (Post 17969665)
I wouldn't count Bart out on Stanley. Nate Taylor has been getting sheet wrong since he started at the Athletic. He has no 'effing clue about any of this. After the OL getting embarrassed on the biggest stage, I expect them to aggressively explore the top FA's. The Clarks need to open up the bank this off season.
I feel like the Chiefs can find/have that money if they wanted to pull the trigger, why the sportswriter would prematurely write that? It's a risk though, as everything I have read Stanley is injury prone, and if gets injured we are right back to getting beat down in big games against formidable competition. To me we would still need to find a way to keep Humphries as tactical backup for LT as the lack of good depth on the OL has killed us before.

Boxer_Chief 02-15-2025 09:05 AM
Sign Stanley and Humphries as the backup in case of injury. It just has to be done, it’s imperative to fix that gaping hole. Then Kingsley can compete with humphries for backup role.

BigRedChief 02-15-2025 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17969376)
You guys have to understand that other than an elite QB, a plus Left Tackle is the hardest thing to find in the NFL.

Any team that has one, isn't going to get rid of him. It's a cornerstone position that's incredibly hard to win without. You don't ditch them. If your team is otherwise any good, you especially won't, because you won't be drafting high enough to get one.

The only guys that come free are 1)old 2) expensive and the team is cap strapped or 3) not good enough for the team to pay in their eyes.

We got OBJ because the Ravens had Stanley and didn't want to pay TWO Left tackles. The Bengals got him because he thought he was worth more money than we offered and signed for less with Cinci cuz pride.

So.

It's over the hill broke dicks and hope Kingsley develops, or it's over pay for a Jackson, a Robinson, or a Stanley.

All have their issues and risks.
How many elite LT's exist in the NFL? 5? How many solid? another3-5? That leaves 20+ teams wanting to upgrade.

There are a lot of big dudes in this country. There is a lot of money waiting for those dudes. So why dont more try to get that money and fame?

Not all big guys also have long arms but most do. It seems that money and fame would attract more big dudes to chase that dream.

kccrow 02-15-2025 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17969662)
Took a look at this Puka Nacua highlight just to see what I could glean from Jackson at LT: https://youtu.be/UUnC2K1tpqk?si=xPCSci06J5r79Q6e

… and I’d need to watch a lot more in totality to be fair, but some of my reservations I think are confirmed. First, McVay does such a good job helping his tackles out and Andy should take notes especially now that are offense is built to run through WRs and not the TE.

Secondly, you’re hard pressed to find reps in there where he’s true vertical setting. Which is what Andy asks of his tackles forever now.

So you’re doing a lot of projecting and hoping it would seem if you bring a guy like that on board. I guess it’s pretty comparable to Orlando Brown in that way.
Yep. All of the potential FAs have major warts. Jackson is generally available but is along those OBJ lines. Stanley has injury issues. Robinson is a worse version of Jackson. Moore is a lot like OBJ and Jackson in that he's going to lose to speed and can't handle Garrett. Wills is horrendous. Honestly, I like Humphries more than all but Stanley but like Stanley has injury issues.

Getting a long-term, completely viable option is probably not going to happen but it might band-aid the position enough. In the end, Veach is going to have to keep swinging for our own LT.


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