wellll that sucks. At least we know he didn’t blow it out from overuse. How many arms did Matheny blow out from overuse? They should have been using Hicks more this year. Kept holding him back because it wasn’t a “closer” situation. So they don’t get credit for taking it easy of a young relievers arm.

Rosenthal was never the same but he had a shit ton of miles on that arm when he blew out.

I’m sure DJ/Hamas probably knows but from my non-scientific eyeball test, I was seeing 99mph fastballs instead of the regular 102-103 ones. Wonder if he told coaches there was anything going on?

He may not have been pitching a lot but it might be better for him to tone it down a little.

C-Mart is going to step into the closer's role.

Welp...

Fire Mo and Shildt then. Hilarious how Bernie was drooling all over that clowns managerial skills last year until the collapse ROFL

he was sold to us as the new breed of manager. He was going to use all this new information and stats to make decisions. We are still the same type of club.

The new manager may not have bible study but he has and plays favorites. Still has this BS mentality of “have to trust our guys” to get the out. Everyone knew you’d be better off walking Ortiz in the 2013 WS. Everyone knows Carp is not getting it done in the lead off spot. Fowler underwhelms with inferior defense. Bader and Wong overachieve with defense but don’t seem to be progressing with the offense. The record nearing mid-season is who you are.

The dynasty didn't die because of Taveras.

The dynasty died because Mozeliak isn't wearing any clothes and once Luhnow left the organization he was exposed as the risk-averse fraud that he is. Taveras wouldn't have fundamentally altered this team significantly.

As for Hicks - well there's really nobody to blame with Hicks. Dude throws 103 with a slider. I was hoping he'd get through 3 seasons before he blew up, then we could get it fixed and get him through 4-5 more before he completely came apart.

What frustrates me more than Hicks is that we had Hicks Lite in Helsley and because we kept dicking around with his role, he's injured now as well.

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that's the line of demarcation. Just like the '01 series was for v the Yankees.

yep, you don’t lose your planned legitimate 3rd hole hitter suddenly, one of your best pitching prospects, give up talent for a 1 year rental that leaves. That’s a lot of top level talent out of your talent pool in one year. Add in Matheny’s stubbornness and Mo’s aversion to risk and that demarcation line is clear now.

I'm done watching these worthless soft assholes for a while. **** it. They wouldn't even have the 3 runs if not for a massive error by the A's.

Im boycotting this bullshit.

Not going to matter. I dont see the Cardinals changing from this mediocre BS until there are empty, unpaid for seats in Bush.

Tino Goldschmidt.

Really Schildt? 17/18 innings without a run? That’s your exciting brand of baseball?
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Mike Shildt was not close to raising his voice an entire octave.

But his point was clear. He thinks his team is playing a better brand of baseball, both from an excitement and fundamental standpoint, than he believes many people perceive.

Haven't really watched much baseball this year and while my Pirates seem to be hitting and batting great, their pitching, especially their mid inning relievers blow moose cock.

St Louis isn't getting much press aside from their big closer blowing out his arm. They seem to have turned into a so-so team that's not really making many moves.

What are the pros and cons of this year's Cards?

Well there’s the comparison of the year.