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Sassy Squatch 04-23-2019 05:18 PM

Chiefs fans with nothing to do Thursday night now;

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jonzie04 04-23-2019 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14222882)
Dee Ford is not equal to, or better than, Frank Clark.

They're both very good players. Both double digit sack guys, Neither are on the level of Mack, Miller, Prime Houston etc. I'd say they're pretty equal, with ford being a slightly more disruptive player, and Clark being a bit better against the run.

Fords backside pursuit is very underrated.

RunKC 04-23-2019 05:19 PM

Wasn’t it Frank Clark that made Derek Carr cry?

Sorry 04-23-2019 05:20 PM

Amazing move. People are enamored by the draft for a crazy reason. Unless you're drafting top 5...talent could be anywhere

Chris Meck 04-23-2019 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 14222900)
Better positions coaches should help out quite a bit.

and just a different philosophy.

**** bend-but-don't-break.

ATTACK.

They didn't get Clark and Honey Badger to just sit back and play passive.

I don't think they got Hitchens for that either.

It appears to be a totally different mind-set.

We've watched them bring in guys that played well elsewhere and suddenly look like shit.

Did they really all just turn into piles of shit, or were they not being put in positions to succeed?

I think the latter.

BigRedChief 04-23-2019 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 14222848)
People claiming Veach should be fired, mostly.

I mean, I thought *I* was overly attached to draft picks. Some of y'all think they are more valuable than 25 year old proven talent. People have been bitching about the lack of a pass rush, then bitch when Veach acquires a Top 5 DE.

There's nothing in this draft we could have acquired for a similar price that will provide the impact Clark will.

Khalil Mack stats compared to Frank Clark last 3 seasons

Frank Clark - 47 games, 32 sacks, 31 TFL, 66 QB Hits

Khalil Mack - 46 games, 34 sacks, 39 TFL, 66 QB Hits

Simply Red 04-23-2019 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14222874)
So it seems like everyone is happy about this trade now

seems most are.

Easy 6 04-23-2019 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14222906)
After pondering this all day I've come to feel good about this trade.

Clark is basically Houston in his prime. Win.
Houston was injured ever since he got a new contract.
Ford had ONE good year where his back wasn't hurt.
Houston is 30 , Clark is 25.
Any draft pick we take at #29 will need a year to assimilate. Clark won't. Same with next years 2nd we traded.
We can still find good players at 61/63 to contribute now.
This was a huge move to win the SB next year.


I like it.

Bingo

Simply Red 04-23-2019 05:25 PM

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Sassy Squatch 04-23-2019 05:25 PM

My stupid ass bricked the thread.

Chris Meck 04-23-2019 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14222906)
After pondering this all day I've come to feel good about this trade.

Clark is basically Houston in his prime. Win.
Houston was injured ever since he got a new contract.
Ford had ONE good year where his back wasn't hurt.
Houston is 30 , Clark is 25.
Any draft pick we take at #29 will need a year to assimilate. Clark won't. Same with next years 2nd we traded.
We can still find good players at 61/63 to contribute now.
This was a huge move to win the SB next year.


I like it.

and in 2020, and 2021.

nobody bats and eye if we spend #29 and a 2020 #2 to move up to take a guy in the draft...who will only be a rotational player more than likely in 2019 and perhaps a starter in 2020 and really only a fully kick-ass player (with luck) in 2021.

I mean that is a reasonable trajectory. See Chris Jones.

We just skipped all that and went straight to kick-ass. And he's about to turn 26. Yeah, we had to pay him, **** it, we cleared the cap space for a reason.

Megatron96 04-23-2019 05:27 PM

Damn. I just finished reading the whole thread. Somebody hurry up and write another post while I make some popcorn!

CasselGotPeedOn 04-23-2019 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14222921)
My stupid ass bricked the thread.

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JohnnyHammersticks 04-23-2019 05:29 PM

CP Monday: Damnit what is Veach doing, we only have 1 or 2 more years with Mahomes on his rookie deal!!???! Get some defensive talent in here!!! I'm gonna die!!!!

CP Tuesday: Damnit what is Veach doing, now we have no chance to draft (insert name of unproven prospect with a coinflip's chance of making it here)? Fire Veach!!! I'm gonna die!!!!!

I think it's a REALLY good deal. Like I think most of Veach's moves this offseason have been. But I have a fully-functioning cerebral cortex, so take it with a grain of salt.

Chris Meck 04-23-2019 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14222893)
Ogbah and Jones are the top 2 players at batted balls. They will be in there on third downs with Nnadi coming out on passing plays

I agree. The rotation looks really solid now.

We may see some of these guys flourish now too; Daly's a damned good coach.


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