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SupDock 01-02-2023 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 16704845)
I texted a friend who’s a surgeon and asked him, given what you saw and the fact he’s intubated and in critical condition, what is the outlook on something like that.

He said, “10% chance of survival.”
10 percent seems low to me. Witnessed arrest with quick cpr and defibrillation

Kman34 01-02-2023 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by backinblack (Post 16704840)
he works for Fox Sports, but yeah
Whatever.. **** him

KC_Connection 01-02-2023 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16704852)
This is why I don’t get too pissy over players wanting their money and wanting the franchise tag eliminated.

This shit could be over for you in one damn play
Every player should get what they can while they can in this crazy sport.

WilliamTheIrish 01-02-2023 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16704843)
This is an uncharted situation, and there’s no way to know who knew what and when.

Maybe everyone ought to decide not to leap to performative outrage and just have a little grace for each other.
(Shut up, lex) <<—- kidding of course.

You’re correct.

staylor26 01-02-2023 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16704839)
It’s just being hyperbolic. Nobody knew what was really going on at the time including whoever made that call. Injuries happen all the time and turn out to be scarier looking than reality.

This is just piling on at this point.
But there has to be a bad guy!

Sassy Squatch 01-02-2023 09:16 PM
I mean, from everything I read McDermott and Taylor forced the issue by taking their teams to their respective locker rooms. It really does sound like the NFL expected a 5 minute warm up period then resume play initially.

KC_Connection 01-02-2023 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16704857)
10 percent seems low to me. Witnessed arrest with quick cpr and defibrillation
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As an ER doc, I can 100% tell you that after cardiac arrest, CPR and defibrillation (AED), there is no way any provider will say Damar Hamlin is ‘okay’ anytime soon.<br><br>Cancel the game <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFL</a>. Let people be together.</p>&mdash; Craig Spencer MD MPH (@Craig_A_Spencer) <a href="https://twitter.com/Craig_A_Spencer/status/1610104232904130562?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

InChiefsHeaven 01-02-2023 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by wbbonneriii (Post 16704832)
Perhaps you just give the bills the L and do not play any of the week 18 games (out of respect for the situation) and then start the playoffs the week after. The Bills were going to lose this game before the injury. You could also just suspend the game indefinitely but if the news is bad the Bills and league will not want to play this coming weekend either.
What in the actual **** are you talking about?!?? There's 5+ minutes left in the first quarter...

ThyKingdomCome15 01-02-2023 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16704777)
If the teams don't want to replay it they may just give the Bengals the win since they were up.
The Bills need to forfeit. Rescheduling the game means CIN starts with the ball up 7-3. They'd probably lose anyway.

mr. tegu 01-02-2023 09:16 PM
Wife is a CRNA and former Neuro ICU nurse. Has administered probably thousands of intubations and done plenty of CPR.

Her take is that 9 minutes of CPR doesn’t necessarily mean anything regarding brain damage as it just means they needed to continue getting blood flowing to brain until he regained consciousness. Good CPR for nine minutes when done quickly enough from beginning can lead to full recovery.

Says intubation occurred in ambulance and since they waited for the family he was likely critical but stable and either in and out of consciousness or conscious. Couldn’t imagine they would wait to go to the hospital if he remained unconscious, even for family.

Says going to ICU and being intubated means you are automatically listed in critical condition and is not an indication necessarily of severity. Says they will have to run tests for potential brain damage.

SupDock 01-02-2023 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16704864)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As an ER doc, I can 100% tell you that after cardiac arrest, CPR and defibrillation (AED), there is no way any provider will say Damar Hamlin is ‘okay’ anytime soon.<br><br>Cancel the game <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFL</a>. Let people be together.</p>&mdash; Craig Spencer MD MPH (@Craig_A_Spencer) <a href="https://twitter.com/Craig_A_Spencer/status/1610104232904130562?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
And?

Hark Clunt 01-02-2023 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16704843)
This is an uncharted situation, and there’s no way to know who knew what and when.

Maybe everyone ought to decide not to leap to performative outrage and just have a little grace for each other.
who needs grace when there's retweets to be gotten. :shake:

Gary Cooper 01-02-2023 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 16704849)
There are hundreds of violent interactions that take place in every game every week in the NFL. You just never imagine one of them leading to this kind of an incident. Just an awful thing to see happen.

Prayers to Demar Hamlin and his family. Sending positive thoughts to them and the entire Bills organization.
Yeah, we're not infallible. Life is fragile. Obviously people even younger than Hamlin have had their hearts stop without any physical contact.

smithandrew051 01-02-2023 09:17 PM
I think just canceling it is the right call. Not sure what the outcome should be or how it should be handled, but there’s no easy way to play this one.

Titty Meat 01-02-2023 09:17 PM
Seeing speculation of torn aorta. I hope that's wrong


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