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ThaVirus 08-14-2016 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12368793)
He's made an amazing impact in the playoffs, just like your other lover, Charles.


Man..

.. Still not getting it..

KChiefs1 08-14-2016 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12368749)
Wilson admitted the same during his sideline interview after he came out.



*SEA broadcast.



Peters is amazing.




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DaneMcCloud 08-14-2016 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12368794)
Man..

.. Still not getting it..

No, as usual, YOU'RE not getting it.

Houston hasn't dominated every single season. He's been good and had one great season, but that's not elite.

If he finishes his career with 70-80 more sacks, he'll be remembered as an elite player but right now, he's just very good.

Same with Charles, who has half the TD's as Priest Holmes and 119 less than Emmitt Smith.

RunKC 08-14-2016 10:13 PM

Emmitt Smith is the most overrated player in NFL history and Jamaal Charles is better than him.

Deberg_1990 08-14-2016 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12368808)
Emmitt Smith is the most overrated player in NFL history and Jamaal Charles is better than him.

:facepalm:

DaneMcCloud 08-14-2016 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12368808)
Emmitt Smith is the most overrated player in NFL history and Jamaal Charles is better than him.

Yeah, the NFL's all time leading rusher, who is second in TD's behind Jerry Rice, played for 15 seasons and led his teams to three Super Bowl victories, in a Run First league mind you, is overrated.

Gotta love Chiefsplanet.

ThaVirus 08-14-2016 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12368801)
No, as usual, YOU'RE not getting it.



Houston hasn't dominated every single season. He's been good and had one great season, but that's not elite.



If he finishes his career with 70-80 more sacks, he'll be remembered as an elite player but right now, he's just very good.



Same with Charles, who has half the TD's as Priest Holmes and 119 less than Emmitt Smith.


What? No shit. Not many players dominate every single season. Watt had 10 sacks like 2 seasons ago and Von Miller no-showed for an entire Super Bowl run a few years ago as well.

I'm not talking about being elite when compared to literally the best players of all time, which is what you're idiotically doing right now.

Is Justin Houston among the two or three best at his position? Yes he is. He is ****ing elite.

RunKC 08-14-2016 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12368811)
Yeah, the NFL's all time leading rusher, who is second in TD's behind Jerry Rice, played for 15 seasons and led his teams to three Super Bowl victories, in a Run First league mind you, is overrated.

Gotta love Chiefsplanet.

Who cares about him breaking the record for most TD's? The guy played forever and his last 5 years were built on reputation when he clearly was just running on fumes.

The 90's Cowboys OL was the best I've ever seen. Emmitt always went 3 yards before anyone could touch him bc the blocking was amazing. You're also forgetting the Cowboys passing game with Aikman and Irvin taking attention away from him.
Now compare that to the trash that Barry Sanders ran behind when every defense focused solely on him. Barry was greatness and a true talent we'll never see again.

Quit thinking Emmitt is "great" simply bc he played forever. Watt could retire tomorrow being nowhere near the top of the all time sacks list and he would absolutely deserve to be a HOF.

DaneMcCloud 08-14-2016 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12368821)
Who cares about him breaking the record for most TD's? The guy played forever and his last 5 years were built on reputation when he clearly was just running on fumes.

Fumes?

2001: 1,021 yards
2002: 975 yards
2003: 256 yards (5 Starts)
2004: 937 yards (15 starts)

Before that, he had 1,500+, 1,700+, 1400+, 1700+ and so on.

From 1991 to 2001, he had more than a 1,000 yards each season and most of those years, 1,200+.

Your recollection is faulty.

RunKC 08-14-2016 11:04 PM

It was just last 4, not 5. He fell below 4 YPC and only scored 9 TD's in his last year bc they gave him the rock 267 times despite him putting up an embarrassing 3.5 YPC after getting 2.8 the year before.

Barry would have had 6 YPC and a ton of TD's every year if he was on those Dallas teams. Emitt wouldn't have done what Barry did if he played in Detroit.
Even Jamaal has been awesome behind below average OL's. I can't even fathom what he would have done in a run first league behind the best OL of all time.

-King- 08-14-2016 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12368827)
Fumes?

2001: 1,021 yards
2002: 975 yards
2003: 256 yards (5 Starts)
2004: 937 yards (15 starts)

Before that, he had 1,500+, 1,700+, 1400+, 1700+ and so on.

From 1991 to 2001, he had more than a 1,000 yards each season and most of those years, 1,200+.

Your recollection is faulty.

3.9 ypc
3.8 ypc
2.8 ypc
3.5 ypc
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pugsnotdrugs19 08-14-2016 11:10 PM

Yeah, there's no way Houston doesn't qualify as elite right now...

Since 2013 he's had a 40.5 sacks in 36 full games.. and in that terrible team defensive performance in the 2013 playoffs against Indy, he had our only sack. This year he was playing on a non-functioning ACL.

He's been one of the best 2-3 OLBs against the run and in pass coverage in the entire league during that span as well. And it's not like he wasn't good in 2012 or 2011 either.

Houston is 100% an elite player in the NFL right now.

pugsnotdrugs19 08-14-2016 11:11 PM

And I'll go ahead and say too that IMO Barry is the GOAT at the running back position.

DaneMcCloud 08-14-2016 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12368834)
3.9 ypc
3.8 ypc
2.8 ypc
3.5 ypc
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Who cares? That was at the tailend of his career.

The guy was ****ing unbelievable in an era of a Run First league.

He was ****ing unstoppable.

I can't believe that ANYONE that ever watched him play would argue otherwise.

BlackOp 08-14-2016 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12368801)

Same with Charles, who has half the TD's as Priest Holmes and 119 less than Emmitt Smith.

You need to stop right there..Charles behind (arguably) one of the best O-lines in modern history would have been sick...especially in an Air Coryell based system.

I love me some Holmes..but he isn't Charles.


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