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O.city 09-24-2018 06:05 PM
Eric Reid is suingthe league

He ain’t getting signed

Earl Thomas is a hall of famer

Marcellus 09-24-2018 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13759980)
No, it's not an answer. It's a question.

I asked it because I don't know the answer.

Not everybody or every post has an ulterior motive or is some kind of back-handed jab.

It's a question. I don't know the answer to your question so I posed one of my own.
All I can say is I can't think of a single 30 year old defensive player who was traded for a 1st rounder and given big money.

If Veach thinks it's worth the shot so be it. That a ton of $ to be spent on the safety position and unlike you I believe there is a salary cap effect.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 13759983)
I'd rather sign Reid off the street for cash, but then don't mind me-I'm just an Army vet that figures it's his right as a citizen to kneel if he wants during the magic flag song.
Reid is suing the league. Kneeling, at this point, is the least of his issues.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13759993)
All I can say is I can't think of a single 30 year old defensive player who was traded for a 1st rounder and given big money.

If Veach thinks it's worth the shot so be it. That a ton of $ to be spent on the safety position and unlike you I believe there is a salary cap effect.
The salary cap has never stopped other teams from signing people and winning Super Bowls. Like ever.

Marcellus 09-24-2018 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13759997)
The salary cap has never stopped other teams from signing people and winning Super Bowls. Like ever.
Well obviously no team that won a SB was stopped by the salary cap, but it's a flat out lie to say many teams have been blown apart and lost players due to the salary cap.

If the cap doesn't exist in any real form why isn't Seattle just paying Thomas his extension? Is a SB winning owner coach and front office just too dumb to make it work?

You seem to be having it both ways with this situation.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13760012)
Well obviously no team that won a SB was stopped by the salary cap, but it's a flat out lie to say many teams have been blown apart and lost players due to the salary cap.

If the cap doesn't exist in any real form why isn't Seattle just paying Thomas his extension? Is a SB winning owner coach and front office just too dumb to make it work?

You seem to be having it both ways with this situation.
There's a difference between a team that already went all-in and one that hasn't yet.

The Chiefs have $11M in cap space and could get Earl Thomas under that without any issue whatsoever.

The only barrier is the trade compensation.

O.city 09-24-2018 06:16 PM
Think they only have 7

Marcellus 09-24-2018 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13760024)
There's a difference between a team that already went all-in and one that hasn't yet.

The Chiefs have $11M in cap space and could get Earl Thomas under that without any issue whatsoever.

The only barrier is the trade compensation.
Could be interesting. Doesn't sound like Seattle really wants to move him though. If we get him I'll be stoked.

Chief Roundup 09-24-2018 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13760024)
There's a difference between a team that already went all-in and one that hasn't yet.

The Chiefs have $11M in cap space and could get Earl Thomas under that without any issue whatsoever.

The only barrier is the trade compensation.
According to overthecap and spotrac we have between $7M and $8M in cap space.

Sassy Squatch 09-24-2018 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13760037)
Could be interesting. Doesn't sound like Seattle really wants to move him though. If we get him I'll be stoked.
They don't.

Kiimo 09-24-2018 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13760024)
There's a difference between a team that already went all-in and one that hasn't yet.

The Chiefs have $11M in cap space and could get Earl Thomas under that without any issue whatsoever.

The only barrier is the trade compensation.
No. Your numbers are wrong.

The Chiefs would have to sign him and give him a new multi-year deal to get under the cap.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13760048)
No. Your numbers are wrong.

The Chiefs would have to sign him and give him a new multi-year deal to get under the cap.
Whoever trades for him is going to give him a multi-year deal. The whole reason he's holding out is because he wants a multi-year deal.

And if the number is $7M, that's still VERY doable. It's all about "want to".

Mecca 09-24-2018 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13760012)
Well obviously no team that won a SB was stopped by the salary cap, but it's a flat out lie to say many teams have been blown apart and lost players due to the salary cap.

If the cap doesn't exist in any real form why isn't Seattle just paying Thomas his extension? Is a SB winning owner coach and front office just too dumb to make it work?

You seem to be having it both ways with this situation.
Cause they are being petty bitches about it apparently...I get they are rebuilding but you shouldn't treat one of your stars that way.

Kiimo 09-24-2018 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13760054)
Whoever trades for him is going to give him a multi-year deal. The whole reason he's holding out is because he wants a multi-year deal.

And if the number is $7M, that's still VERY doable. It's all about "want to".
yeah okay but that's a different thing than I was arguing against. His current deal is 10m a year.

I want them to do it, just to be clear.

KCUnited 09-24-2018 06:26 PM
I'd trade for Ed Reed's brother to replace Eric Murray at this point.


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