BTW, I'm done with this shit. We both have our own views on what happened and we'll never agree.

But the important thing is, you learned a lesson ... From one of TBFIBB.

I haven't been reading any of your screeds but have you explained yet the huge differential in hit batters - both early on and as of today? I'm really not concerned with what John Kruk thinks about anything and I doubt he knows the actual data

No one said Madson intentionally hit him. Nice straw man, though.

Your inferiority complex houses more people than a Mumbai slum.

Straw man? What the heck are you talking about? Then what was Donaldson throwing a fit about? That's the entire discussion. All this other stuff you're moaning on about is the straw man. If you don't think that pitch was an intentional attempt to get him, then why did the benches empty and this become a national debate? If that wasn't intentional then Donaldson really was being a drama queen and the Royals didn't do anything wrong. This wouldn't have ever become an event. The game would've carried on and no one would be talking about any HBPs or stolen signs.

Intentionally beaned near the head in the first. Buzzed near the head in the third; hit in the seventh. But why would he be pissed?

That is an astounding level of myopic homerism.

When was he hit in the 7th?

Buzzed by a ... Changeup.

Watch the games if you want to comment.

And he was hit NOWHERE near the head in the 1st. Good God LMAO

You're embarrassing yourself Hamas

He wasn't hit in the 7th inning. Madson threw a pitch inside, and Donaldson flipped out, walked away from the plate, stalled the game, and the situation got out of control.

And as I've pointed out numerous times, there were two men on base. If he hit Donaldson in that situation, it would've loaded the bases in a two run game for Jose Bautista.

You have yet to make a quality argument why that was intentional. That's the question I've asked now, for the 4th or 5th time. But please, continue on your diatribe addressing everything but that. At this point I'm not going to stop you. You are obviously here just to troll and not engage in any kind of legitimate discussion about the topic.

Just rewatched the first inning beaning. He was literally hit an inch above his massive elbow pad. Lmao. Yeah. Near the head.

You are naive if you don't think those were intentional. Even if we were brushing them back.

I support it but I'm surprised you don't see that.

FWIW, Hamas host great game day threads and has always been very cordial to me.

Wtf?

I know for a fact the 1st inning beaning was intentional. That was textbook intentional. I've never argued otherwise.

The changeup was so unintentional the umpire didn't toss Volquez because IT WAS A ****ING CHANGEUP. Omg this is baseball 101.

And Madson wasn't trying to intentionally hit Donaldson, either. And if you think that, you're a ****ing moron.

I cannot believe this is still a topic of conversation. The baseball IQ on this board is pathetic.

The 3rd inning pitch was a changeup. Most changeups, Volquez included, are supposed to dive. I find it incredibly hard to believe he was trying to hit a guy with a changeup in the head. That would be very difficult to do.

You could argue he was trying to brush Donaldson off the plate in the 7th inning, but that's not illegal. Everybody does that. If you're sitting here arguing, like Donaldson and our friendly Cards fans, that he was trying to take his head off and load the bases for Bautista in a 2 run game... that would be dirty, and stupid. You're basically saying we were okay with throwing the game just to knock Donaldson's head off. If he really wanted to do that, he would've done it with the next pitch. Instead he struck Donaldson out.