Yeah, I get that we have to fill some big holes on the team. But what's it going to cost to keep both MVS and JJSS? What if we could get DHop (since we keep bringing him up) for $20M/yr? That'd be cheaper, right? And we'd get better value at the position, except in terms of raw speed. But otherwise we'd get great-to-elite route running, catch radius, hands, situational awareness, etc. and pay $5M-$10M less per year (maybe).

Is that not a viable option?

Good discussion and I will see if I can address these points as well.

To your first point, we had two last year, Tyreek and Kelce and had a bad stretch because of an over dependence on those two who teams took away. Once that happened our JAGs or less than JAGs couldn’t overcome that. This offense is harder to stop this year because Mahomes can make them pay by hitting someone else. Imagine how much more deadly he would be if our Ts were better?

We do have Skyy and Toney and both have a ton of potential, but Skyy isn’t playing a whole lot right now and him running the wrong routes has caused multiple INTs this year. He should grow out of that, but until he does we can’t bank on him. Toney seems to be injured quite a bit in two years. Perhaps it’s flukey and he will overcome that as well. Or he could be a cheaper Watkins for us.

Since we are discussing #1 WRs I am purposely not including Gronk or Kelce in these discussions. As such the would make Edelman their #1 WR and he is definitely not one. Welker was a good slot WR, but not a true #1 so Brady really only had Moss that I can think of.

I get the cost, but I would rather have JJSS and MVS than neither and a shiny new expensive #1 as it’s harder to shut down both of them along with Kelce than Kelce and our #1. The #1 WR might be able to do better than either individually, but not combined. Plus look at the WR market, you are going to struggle to get a true #1 for $20 million. Plus as I had stated that if your #1 goes down and only has JAGs behind him this offense is in trouble. It’s no surprise that KC’s offense is better this year than last when we had Tyreek.

Mahomes is getting to a stage where he will have to do more with less. I believe he can and will, but I would rather pour resources into keeping him upright and on defense so he can win games without having to feel like he has to do it all.

Nope.

Shit. Fine then. Be that way.

Happy New Year, bud.:p

You don't have a 10" dick? How the hell was your application for membership to CP approved? Next you tell me you don't have a supermodel wife...

Yeah this is BS. It's all about resource allocation. Again, we're paying MVS and Frank Clark $30+ mil whether there they're on the team or not in 2022 and 2023. $46mil if you include OBJ. All that for barely above average production. You can pay a true #1 WR with that money.

Terry McLaurin signed a 3 year 68mil contract in the in the offseason that's actually a 3 year $53mil contract. Would you rather have Terry McLaurin for 3 years 53 million or MVS, OBJ, and Frank Clark for 2 years $46+mil? Or 3 years $58mil for Dk Metcalf.

Mclaurin numbers would be about 20% inflated if he hit free agency, which is where we’d be getting one

His post said that when it was time to pay a receiver we drafted, we should let someone else do that

Oh yeah we should pay our own guy

You cane give a second contract. Just not a third.

Juju with has rejuvenated his career in KC. A leader in the locker room and a good player. He's been half WR and half TE for us, highly effective.

Not sure what kind of money he's looking for but I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up in MIA or some other team that loves snatching up our players.

We need to ink him. As Kelcee starts the decline he can run a lot of the same routes and find holes in the zone in much the same way. He can pick up some of the slack.

The awesome thing with Kelce is that he is so good because he's so ****ing smart. He can do that well into his late 30s if he wants and even when his age catches up to him he will still be good because of his intelligence.

****ing love the guy!

MVS is on a 3 year, so hes already accounted for. To go with that, we wouldnt miss him. Hes caught 37 balls this year, and dropped 37 more. Hes a JAG.

Happy new year!

No, seriously-

I no longer believe in the 'stars and scrubs' method of team building. You can kind of do that until you have to pay your QB. And at that point, it just leaves you too predictable, too one dimensional.

I'd rather have 3 solid plus players than one star in any position group. The opposition can plan for one star; much tougher to deal with 3 guys who can all beat you on any given rep.

Our inefficiencies this season are not talent based. Sometimes Mahomes still is reluctant to take the outlet pass to the back (less so these last few games, and look at what Mckinnon has done!), we've had a lot of turnovers (!) and a lot of dropsies. Add those to having absolute dogshit at RT, and let's call it "inconsistent" play at LT. If more than one of those things is happening for a stretch, we can look incoherent.

No, I think we need to stay this course. I'd like to see Juju in year 2 here. Develop Skyy and Toney. Draft another guy. Fix the ****ing OT situations.

And get some DL help.