Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11639137)

The 3rd inning pitch was a changeup. Most changeups, Volquez included, are supposed to dive. I find it incredibly hard to believe he was trying to hit a guy with a changeup in the head. That would be very difficult to do.

You could argue he was trying to brush Donaldson off the plate in the 7th inning, but that's not illegal. Everybody does that. If you're sitting here arguing, like Donaldson and our friendly Cards fans, that he was trying to take his head off and load the bases for Bautista in a 2 run game... that would be dirty, and stupid. You're basically saying we were okay with throwing the game just to knock Donaldson's head off. If he really wanted to do that, he would've done it with the next pitch. Instead he struck Donaldson out.

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11639138)

Clearly we're just total homers ... As the only team that suffered any suspensions from this ordeal was Toronto

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 11639153)

Since when are batters entitled to own the whole plate? That is the entire point of brushing dudes back. But these guys these days have nothing to fear with robot elbow pads. If you give the batter the ability to crowd the plate, you can't throw strikes without risking long balls. Hence, you pitch inside. If the batter doesn't respect the space, he gets hit. I thought this was common knowledge.

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 11639158)

Only because Sanchez threw at a guy after the warning, not before. The only Royal I could have seen being suspended was Volquez and that was because he all but admitted after the game that he threw at Donaldson on purpose because he pimped HRs.

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11639164)

They could still suspend Volquez if they wanted. They fined Ventura for hitting Lawrie and suspended him for yelling at Adam Eaton.

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 11639172)

If they were going to suspend Volquez, wouldn't they have done it while announcing the Jays' suspensions?

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11639174)

That's the point. They didn't. There doesn't have to be a warning to fine or suspend a guy.

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11639133)

Wtf?

I know for a fact the 1st inning beaning was intentional. That was textbook intentional. I've never argued otherwise.

The changeup was so unintentional the umpire didn't toss Volquez because IT WAS A ****ING CHANGEUP. Omg this is baseball 101.

And Madson wasn't trying to intentionally hit Donaldson, either. And if you think that, you're a ****ing moron.

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 11639188)

Baseball 101 does not always apply. All of it was intentional. And I don't care. We've ****ed off plenty of games so screw your pitch selection on the plunks. Crafty is all it is.

You sound like a Patriots fan, defending the undefendable to the end.. And the moron thing is uncalled for.

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11639189)

You're an idiot.