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AdumbGuy 07-31-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9848448)
Up until that last part, I was going to say that he can't possibly compete with Matt Cassel. But Cassel definitely had an effect on wins and losses.

Well, losses anyway. The sample size of wins isn't large enough to draw any conclusions.

what about the conclusion that there weren't many wins? Also, that cassel had a stupid face?

Mav 07-31-2013 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9847933)
I'm saying as a player Jamal Charles is super talented and accomplished. Easily a top 5 HB in the NFL.

Comparing Smith to any top 5 QB is just silly.

We're comparing individual players here - not teams. I don't want to hear about playoff wins. Hell, Sanchez has more playoff wins than Smith but he's one of the worst starting (?) QB's in the league...

Well obviously with Charles. And, Im not debating with Smith and comparing him to any top 15 qb, much less a top 5. I was comparing your desire to take Matt Ryan, over Colin Kaepernick........

Mav 07-31-2013 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9848369)
lmao

Nurturing him while holding him back. It's a conspiracy! A conspiracy of mediocrity!

Its not really. Alex Smith was a completely broken qb when Harbaugh got ahold of him, during a lockout no less. The only way to win in 2011 was to nurture without placing too much pressure on him. That part makes complete sense......I don't expect the I wont say haters, but detractors, or doubters to care, but that's the truth. He had to nurture him...
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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 9848440)
They forgot to print the whole comment: "He's the best in the league.... at checking down, panicking under pressure, taking sacks, and having zero effect on wins and losses."

Meh. I was with you because it was actually pretty accurate and funny until the very last part. He didn't have that many parts in losses, that part is actually pretty true, but in wins? In 2011, he led, READ THAT WORD LED, 7 come from behind victories in the 4th quarter. Regardless of how he played during the rest of the game, you earn your money as a qb in the 4th quarter when the game is on the line. That's why people are KILLING Tony Romo. He is great at racking up yards, but he is God awful in Clutch moments.

Psyko Tek 07-31-2013 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 9847585)
BY RANDY COVITZ

“Ultimately, every team has to have a quarterback,” Pederson said. “I think we have the best in the league.”

The best? Better than Peyton Manning … Tom Brady … Drew Brees … Joe Flacco … Matt Ryan … Eli Manning … Colin Kaepernick … ?

taken out of context, to finish the quote
that will play for Kansas City

MMXcalibur 07-31-2013 07:16 PM

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Drugs are bad, mmmmk.

tecumseh 07-31-2013 07:40 PM

The best in the League on July 31, 13. Don't really mean too much.

hometeam 07-31-2013 07:43 PM

I dont get the use of the phrase 'over time'

When you look at the guy 'over time' he sucks major ballsacks.

Ceej 07-31-2013 07:44 PM

Alex Smith couldn't even out play Taco.

Simply Red 07-31-2013 07:49 PM

I can't even comment on that.

Dylan 07-31-2013 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9847766)
ROFL That gimmick, is becoming the trend of the league......Its not a gimmick. Its called evolution.

Do you think defending a great pistol offense / read-option offense is any different than defending a great traditional QB?

Great traditional QBs do not show the exact coverage every play and yet defenses have not stopped those QBs offenses.

The NFL along with owners and coaches has spent years devising ways to protecting QBs on the field. QBs cost teams more money each year - The biggest problem for running QBs is they are a target - And one day they are not going to walk off the field.

It is only a matter of time before defensive coaches defeat the pistol offense / read-option schemes in the NFL. I believe it will be sooner than later. Most likely this year soon.


Just my opinion.

Saccopoo 07-31-2013 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 9849152)
Do you think defending a great pistol offense / read-option offense is any different than defending a great traditional QB?

Great traditional QBs do not show the exact coverage every play and yet defenses have not stopped those QBs offenses.

The NFL along with owners and coaches has spent years devising ways to protecting QBs on the field. QBs cost teams more money each year - The biggest problem for running QBs is they are a target - And one day they are not going to walk off the field.

It is only a matter of time before defensive coaches defeat the pistol offense / read-option schemes in the NFL. I believe it will be sooner than later. Most likely this year soon.


Just my opinion.

Urban Meyer thinks your opinion is silly.

http://buckeyefansonly.com/images11/urbanmeyer2011.jpg

Mav 07-31-2013 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 9849152)
Do you think defending a great pistol offense / read-option offense is any different than defending a great traditional QB?

Great traditional QBs do not show the exact coverage every play and yet defenses have not stopped those QBs offenses.

The NFL along with owners and coaches has spent years devising ways to protecting QBs on the field. QBs cost teams more money each year - The biggest problem for running QBs is they are a target - And one day they are not going to walk off the field.

It is only a matter of time before defensive coaches defeat the pistol offense / read-option schemes in the NFL. I believe it will be sooner than later. Most likely this year soon.


Just my opinion.

Its fair. I just think the league as a whole is going more progressive. I think the patriots started it when they started running more of a spread offense using principles from Chip Kelly. It was furthered by what the Redskins did last year with RG3, and then completely taken to another level by what they had to do with Kaepernick. I don't know if it is a trend, or a fad. Slowly, the traditional run game is being phased out, with the run game being less and less important. With the evolution at the qb position with Russell Wilson, Kaep, Andrew Luck, RG3, the position is athletic as it has ever been. I guess we will see.

Jakemall 07-31-2013 09:41 PM

I love Alex and all. I really think he is a franchise qb. But this made me

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-conte...j-laughing.gif

007 07-31-2013 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 9847592)
And THIS is why you don't smoke crack

/thread

O.city 07-31-2013 09:44 PM

If I'm a defensive coordinator and a team decides to run the read option on my defense, I'm likely going to have a guy unblocked that the offense is going to have to "option" off of.

I'm telling that guy to hit the QB, solidly, everytime. I don't even worry about the RB at that point, he can gain some yards. But I don't go for fakes, etc. I'm hitting the QB, and they can't flag that, he's a runner at that point.


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