why wouldn't they take their General Manager?












:p

In the name of fairness, I don't think the "hindsight" argument holds weight here.

MANY people here, none of which work for an NFL franchise, said last offseason before any games were played that re-signing our own players would result in a poor season. And we were 100% correct.

Since when was the defense not part of the team?

I'll take you as a boss anyday nmt1: low expectations and all-ecompassing excuses for lack of production over such a broad model of consistant end results, or lack there of in this case.

Just let me know where I should send my resume to, with the proper motivation I could be one hell of slacker.

I guess I must've been reading more into your statement about something being wrong with the team than was really in it. When you said there's something wrong with the team, I thought you meant something other than a lack of talent or depth. Clearly, there's a lack of talent on the defense that should be addressed.

Regarding my low expectations for the Chiefs, I believe one sets themselves up for disappointment when they expect results out of something they don't control. Why should I have high expectations for the Chiefs? They are a sports team based 1000 miles away from where I live. For me the Chiefs have no deadlines or projects to complete because I'm always going to be a fan win or lose. I'd like to see them win the Superbowl but I have no control over whether or not they do and no control over what they do to try to win the Superbowl. I don't look at the Chiefs as an employee, a friend, or something to prop up my psyche. It doesn't make sense to invest so much of myself in something that's going to end up causing me nothing but heartache particularly now that parity has been the rule. If that makes me less of a fan, then I guess I'm less of a fan. I can tell you this much, I don't lose any sleep over who the Chiefs drafted in the 4th round of the 1986 draft.

Don't try to extrapolate my Chiefs fandom to the rest of my life. It's an innacurate gauge at best.

I don't deny that many here said that the strategy employed last offseason wouldn't work and were right about it. There were also some here who threw fits when we traded for Trent Green and signed Preist Holmes. For every person around here who's been right about something there's been at least one other who's been totally wrong about something.
IMO, some around here are more interested in proving their football acumen than seeing the Chiefs win, present company excluded.

Fair enough on that note.

Sixteen years ago GM Carl Peterson promised the fans a Super Bowl Appearence in his "five year plan" that came from HIS OWN MOUTH. This statement was a large reason he received his position and was widely accepted.

When is it fair to expect him to live up to his end of the bargin? 5 years later? 10 years later? 16 years later?

Or am I mislead? Are there are no expectations to be taken from that statement and his "we're here to win" speeches every year?

You seem to be investing a good deal of energy trying to contradict our views on the organization.

I don't think anyone is getting ready to throw themself off a bridge or is crying themselves to sleep at night because of this team.

I would hope no one is throwing themselves off a bridge just because the Chiefs drafted Kris Wilson last year though judging from some of the reactions you'd have thought someone had killed their dog or worse.

I have about as much of a chance to change your mind about the Chiefs as you do mine so I'm not trying to do that. I do find it interesting that some are quick to write off Rufus Dawes' columns as brown nosing garbage but they treat what's on the radio or in the newspaper as gospel. Guess it's kind of like politics. You listen to and believe in whoever you agree with.

I'm dubious about the 5 year plan thing. I didn't hear the press conference so I don't know exactly what was said. Carl probably did say something like they had a five year plan to get to the Superbowl which I'm sure was blown out of proportion by the media much like what happens currently. His five year plan didn't work. Big deal. Being upset about that is like being upset the Chiefs lost Superbowl I.

Thanks for opening up the wound again, ya bastard. :cuss:

Fair enough, agree to disagree or whatever is the appropriate decree is in this case.

I'm already over my 'arguing without being paid for it' quota for the next three months.

LOL.

I appreciate your candor.

Nobody treats anything like the gospel, but it's amazing that someone defends somebody who is bought and sold by the Chiefs and won't even use his REAL NAME to bag on those that actually support his organization. Get real.