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Wile_E_Coyote 07-03-2005 06:49 PM

with Jake Plummer & Kerry Collins for four games there would be no INT bonus in Law's contract

andoman 07-03-2005 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bhud
An incentive laden contract would be ideal and it just might be plausible with Law's attitude. Challenge him to live up to his statement that he will be the best CB in the NFL next season.

I think that's a great idea, but what would the incentives be? If he plays lights out there won't be many balls thrown his way. Not much chance for picks or pass break ups and tackle opportunities only in the running game. Judgement of his performance would surely be subjective and unquantifiable.

milkman 07-03-2005 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by andoman
I think that's a great idea, but what would the incentives be? If he plays lights out there won't be many balls thrown his way. Not much chance for picks or pass break ups and tackle opportunities only in the running game. Judgement of his performance would surely be subjective and unquantifiable.

Games started and played would have to be the primary incentive.

andoman 07-03-2005 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SideWinder
Games started and played would have to be the primary incentive.

You could base some incentives on that I suppose. But I don't think you have to be the best CB in the league and command top dollar just to start on the Chiefs defense.

Wile_E_Coyote 07-03-2005 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by andoman
I think that's a great idea, but what would the incentives be? If he plays lights out there won't be many balls thrown his way. Not much chance for picks or pass break ups and tackle opportunities only in the running game. Judgement of his performance would surely be subjective and unquantifiable.

intercepting or tackling Plummer is gong to be available for stat building

milkman 07-03-2005 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by andoman
You could base some incentives on that I suppose. But I don't think you have to be the best CB in the league and command top dollar just to start on the Chiefs defense.

No, but you have to be heathy enough to play.

Giving him top dollar only to have him injured and not playing is throwing money away.

4th and Long 07-03-2005 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Wile_E_Coyote
intercepting or tackling Plummer is gong to be available for stat building

That's not even fair to use as a stat. If picking of The Fake and tackling him were a sport, it would comparable clubbing a baby seal.

Wile_E_Coyote 07-03-2005 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long
That's not even fair to use as a stat. If picking of The Fake and tackling him were a sport, it would comparable clubbing a baby seal.

bootlegging Plummer meets long arms of Law...yes like baby seal clubbing :)

milkman 07-03-2005 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wile_E_Coyote
bootlegging Plummer meets long arms of Law...yes like baby seal clubbing :)

That'd be nice, but I'm really looking for a Plummer Bell ringing!

andoman 07-03-2005 07:19 PM

How about making the Pro Bowl?

Wile_E_Coyote 07-03-2005 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SideWinder
That'd be nice, but I'm really looking for a Plummer Bell ringing!

Hall, Allen, Johnson, Surtain, SCANLON



just no Hicks :(

penchief 07-03-2005 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by andoman
How about making the Pro Bowl?

That would be the most obvious way, IMO.

If he's all he says he is then you would think he believes he'd have an impact on the defense as a whole. Maybe we could tie some of the incentives to the overall performance of the secondary or the overall performance of the defense. Any significant improvement on defense would have to consist of improved play by both our corners. Pay him big if our pass defense improves big. After all that's what we're after. He'd get what he wants and we'd get what we need.

If the incentives were to be based on individual stats, maybe it would make sense to base it on a statistical improvement of his position compared to last year. Fewer completions, fewer yards, fewer first downs, fewer TD's, etc. Maybe the size of the bonus could be tied directly to the percentage decrease of those negative stats.

mikey23545 07-03-2005 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic
That money was provided to Lamar by the fans that spend $80 to plant their asses in their seats, pay $20 to park their damn car, and $6 for a friggin' beer. The fans have made the man a hell of a lot money over the last several years to watch a mediocre football team. I'm 33 years old and NEVER watched the Chiefs win a Superbowl. It's about damn time Lamar gives a little back to the fans that's made his ass rich while sporting a "competitive team".

Lamar never held a gun to your head to make you spend a dime, you reerun. When someone thinking that because they spent a dollar at Walmart it makes them a member of the board of directors, they need some serious mental help.

If you don't like the fortune he's already spent this offseason, become a ****ing hockey fan.

Coogs 07-04-2005 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR
Green, Gonzalez and Holmes will all be here next season IMO. I believe Roaf will play next year as well. He told Vermeil he wanted to play another 3 seasons. With Welbourn waiting in the wings, I'm not that worried about Shields retiring....

I would love to have Law as well. I just don't think he is worth Surtain money.

On the first part, I'm just telling ya what Gonzo said. All those guys may be here, but they ARE all starting to get up there. Look at what one extra year did for Gannon. From Super Bowl QB to Grandpa in 6 short months.

As far as the second part, I do think he is worth the money. Especially if the bonus can be structured to be on next years. We shouldn't need as many FA's then. Just a shift in power from the offense to the defense.

KCFalcon59 07-04-2005 08:32 AM

I watched the story on sportcenter last night. It showed Law training. I know it's not pads, but he was working hard. Planting, cutting, running up and down stairs. To me that foot looks like it is doing fine. Someone will pay good jack for him. I'd wouldn't mind taking the gamble from what I saw of him.


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