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kepp 09-08-2005 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by craneref
Personally, I wouldn't have put the sign up, however, it amazes me how people wait to attack Christians as hypocrites. The only difference between Christians and other hypocrites is that most Christians admit it, that is why they go to church. As humans it is nearly impossible to not be hypocritical. I too believe that God is Love, however, Love is not always the easy kind, the tough love is what I give my children and expect from parents, so I would not dare to think I have God cornered on the way He would show His Love, or to say that He does not have the Creators Right to clean any slate He thinks needs to be cleaned. I am not saying that is what happened in this instance, just declaring that God still has that Right to do so.
Well said.

Area 51 09-08-2005 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by craneref
Never said I was righteous, just have accepted the Only Righteous one as my savior. My point is that society as a whole holds Christians to higher standards than everyone else, which is fine becasue we should hold ourselves to higher standards. But the word reighteous is one that loves to be thrown around. In the case you are using it then Sen Clinton believes herself more righteous, Sen Kennedy believes himself more righteous, Cindy Shehan believes herself to be more righteous, did anyone throw that word at them, my guess is VERY few, because the only people in America that are allowed to have opinions and beliefs and express them are not Christians, because we all know they are nothing but a bunch of Judgemental, hypocritical, self-righteous and racist individuals, that play with snakes and beat our children. Don't label the apple because of the worm, because NOTHING is perfect on this planet. Not perfect, just forgiven.
I agree. You writum goodly bohonk!!

Area 51 09-08-2005 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jspchief
What amazes me is the righteous attitude of some christians.
What amazes me is the equally self righteous attitude of some non-christians.

greg63 09-08-2005 02:02 PM
Living in a free country it is, at the moment, not against the law to offend people through freedom of speech. However, the right to free speech does not equate to the right to be heard, no where in the constitution does any such right exist. Speaking as a Christian, I don't believe that the sign serves well the church, the community or the faith. I refuse to believe that with all of New Orleans moral depravity that it raises to the level of Sodom and Gomorrah where, according to the story, only one family was worth saving out of the entire two cities. I think it should be taken down and the message, if any, saved for another time.

HolyHandgernade 09-08-2005 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by craneref
Never said I was righteous, just have accepted the Only Righteous one as my savior. My point is that society as a whole holds Christians to higher standards than everyone else, which is fine becasue we should hold ourselves to higher standards. But the word reighteous is one that loves to be thrown around. In the case you are using it then Sen Clinton believes herself more righteous, Sen Kennedy believes himself more righteous, Cindy Shehan believes herself to be more righteous, did anyone throw that word at them, my guess is VERY few, because the only people in America that are allowed to have opinions and beliefs and express them are not Christians, because we all know they are nothing but a bunch of Judgemental, hypocritical, self-righteous and racist individuals, that play with snakes and beat our children. Don't label the apple because of the worm, because NOTHING is perfect on this planet. Not perfect, just forgiven.
Man, when did Christianity become the largest and richest victim group in the whole world? Must have never gotten over the lion thing in Rome.

Seriously though, do Clinton, Kennedy, and Shehan claim to have THE answer or THE truth? Christianity does. If one makes big claims they may have to defend it if they choose, ignore it if they must, or whine about it like above. Religions like this brand of Christianity are not "righteous", they're absoultist. They believe there is one right way to do just about everything, and if you differ from the rulebook, it is sure you are going to burn forever.

As far as I'm concerned people can believe whatever they want, but they may not necessarily be free to act on those beliefs whenever and however they want. This sign, to me, does not fall into the prohibited category.

-HH

chiefs4me 09-08-2005 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Area 51
I was under the impression that Texas was the asshole of America. I guess Tyler fits the state.



**** you asshole....:harumph: So some idiot in Tyler puts up a sign and you link the whole freaking state to it....please tell me you are not a chiefs fan.:deevee:

kepp 09-08-2005 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jspchief
What amazes me is the righteous attitude of some christians.
God calls christians to be righteous...why shouldn't they have a righteous attitude? If you're talking about a SELF-righteous attitude, that's a different story. I haven't seen any self-righteousness in this thread. The christians who have spoken up have merely spoken their beliefs based on what God says. Self-righteousness would be for me to believe I'm better than you based on what God says. I don't believe that. Are there people who profess to be christians who DO behave that way? Absolutely. Are there non-christians who believe they're better than christians because of what they believe? Absolutely. As someone said earlier though, its a shame when an apple is labeled because of the worm.

DaKCMan AP 09-08-2005 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by craneref
My point is that society as a whole holds Christians to higher standards than everyone else,
I don't.

Imon Yourside 09-08-2005 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade
Seriously though, do Clinton, Kennedy, and Shehan claim to have THE answer or THE truth? -HH
hrmph..did you really want me to answer that?

kepp 09-08-2005 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade
Seriously though, do Clinton, Kennedy, and Shehan claim to have THE answer or THE truth? -HH
Hillary or Bill? ;)

Area 51 09-08-2005 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefs4me
**** you asshole....:harumph: So some idiot in Tyler puts up a sign and you link the whole freaking state to it....please tell me you are not a chiefs fan.:deevee:
I would guess that #1, you don't know a joke when you read it and #2, I've been to Texas and it isn't too much of a joke!!!

YES, I'M A CHIEFS FAN. ARE YOU?

chiefs4me 09-08-2005 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Area 51
I would guess that #1, you don't know a joke when you read it and #2, I've been to Texas and it isn't too much of a joke!!!

YES, I'M A CHIEFS FAN. ARE YOU?



hmmm, I thought a joke was supposed to be funny...:rolleyes:



and as for the chiefs....I was a chiefs fan before you were even shitting in your pants...:harumph: Got something for you.....


















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ROYC75 09-08-2005 02:48 PM
Poor taste by the pastor...... very poor.

C-Mac 09-08-2005 02:52 PM
I thought the Baptists said that Las Vegas was the modern day Sodom and Gomorah???:shrug:
....no wait, maybe it was San Francisco :hmmm:
.....oh I give up, this is all just too confusing.

Dave Lane 09-08-2005 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Simplex3
This is what I hate about BOTH sides of this coin. He posted it and you act like it's something.

The guy and his church believe a fairly strict set of rules. NO is a city that prides itself on breaking those rules. I didn't hear you guys crying about the fact that these church members were being offended every day that NO did it's thing.

Now the roles are reversed and the church is doing their thing and you guys are all bent out of shape. Hypocrites.

Like a wise comedian once said: "Don't kick a man while he's down? What better time is there to kick a man?"
Let me re-educate you to what normal people think I'll do it a simply as possible to work with your username.

1) What NO does does not affect the church in any way. They may not like it but its none of their business.

2) NO is not putting a sign outside of the churchs property saying there is no god this church sucks! Now if they had I would be opposed to that.

3) Its in bad taste no matter how you slice it

Dave


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