I don't remember any of those guys completely sucking with their first team.

That's very unfair of you, jsp. Rogers has proven time and time again that he can perform at a high level in the NCAA against many CBs who didn't even make it to an NFL training camp, and he was spectacular. Just because he can't cut it in the NFL is no reason that you completely disregard everything that he's done at a sub-amatuer level!

Alot of people had labeled Rice as a bust when he went to Tampa....

Don't know about that. He was pretty dang good in Arizona all but one year.

There is a massive difference between those guys and Charles Rogers. All three of those guys were very, very productive before going to their 2nd team.

Being a great OC doesn't mean you are a great talent evaluator.



So at 25 years old his talent has evaporated? I'm gonna call BS on that.


Okay, thanks Miss Cleo

Rice had 51.5 sacks in 5 years with Arizona. That is not a bust.

I like how everyone was pissed off that Vermiel wouldn't add players after camp started......then a guy gets cut and they turn into Vermiel and don't want anyone.

So uh guys make up your mind.

They might not be exactly synonymous with Rogers, but my original point was that adding a "bad apple" has helped teams win championships in the past.

You're joking, right? Compared to Charles Rogers, Roy Williams looks like Jerry Rice.

Are his numbers awesome? No. But if Rogers' excuse is Joey Harrington, Then why can Williams, or Scottie Vines for that matter, have at least mild success?

Rogers hasn't done shit in 3 years in the league.

I remember alot of people thinking he was "ok" but nothing like they thought of him after he went to Tampa and become a great player.

I'm all for bringing the guy in for a workout, I don't think it could hurt.

But, I think some of these guys are making the point not that he's a bad apple, but he's not been productive.

I also like how some bring up the excuse "he was injured"

If that's the case, then why haven't we seen Sylvester Morris in a Chiefs uniform lately?

People around here would rather have Chris Horn than Charles Rogers, that's just how fans are. We'd rather have hard working never will be white boy than the all world talent that needs some work cause he has some problems. I don't agree with that philosphy but I see it on here constantly.

Are you one of those guys who wouldn't want TO on this team no matter what?