They don't have a say in the lowest model price, but they have a say in how much that vehicle is priced at on the lot, which is over final cost.

And that amount is what the salesman has to work with during the sale. He's working for that commission... and he knows what price limit that he has to say no to.

Well then good for you... you're doing a good job then. But in most cases, this does not hold true. Ask the average person if they'd rather pay $10,000 to the nice guy or $9,250 to the jackass. No offense, but the jackass is gonna win more often.

Please don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say that your job isn't important. And I'm not saying that a considerate salesman isn't appreciated. I'm just saying that nice guy or not, business is business.

It doesn't take too many times getting burned by a jackass before you change that attitude.

Maybe we should start a poll... might be an interesting discussion...

How many people have bought consecutive vehicles from the same car salesman?

How many people remember the name of the car salesman that sold them their last vehicle?

How many are first time buyers?

Would you buy from the same salesman?

Why does beer go so well with pizza?

How does the Posi-Trac on a Plymouth work???

Nobody knows...it just duz!!!

:)

Very interesting to read the last few pages of this thread. A few of you are of the opinion that the salesman has no value in the transaction but everone who is making that argument is motivated strictly by price as far as I can tell. That is fine but not every customer has the same motivations. Someone posted earlier something to the effect that anyone dealing with a salesman is an idiot. That's a very egotistical attitude to assume everyone should make their buying decisions the same way you do.

I'm not a car salesman but I'm fairly sure that both the auto manufacturers and auto customers would suffer greatly without dealerships and salespeople. There are many reasons for where customers decide to buy a car other than price.

It would also be interesting to see the results of the same poll with a different audience. Maybe single/divorced women or people over 50 or families with yearly incomes over 150K, to name a few.

Beer goes so well with pizza because beer goes well with almost everything.........german chocolate cake is an exception.

I have bought my last 3 Cars from the same salesman at the same Toyota dealership, each time the experience has been better. I am going to buy a Tundra after the start of the year of the truck is still there.

Great points.

I respect your loyalty as well as your choice. The new Tundra will be awesome. And that is from a Chevy Dealer.

But the terms can be taken care of well in advance, that was my primary point slim. :spock:

um.....thanks for calling me slim?????