I knew very little of him before seeing it.

He dropped because of a torn bicep, pretty knarly injury, but he just last week has medical clearance for camp. That alone should put him as at least the number three DT in the draft, ahead of Tank (according to Mike Mayock).

Here's what impresses me as his character - he injured himself in the game against (florida, I think) and he said he did what he thought a Good Defensive captain should do, he played through the pain. After the game he was diagnosed with a torn bicep and needed surgery, thus ending his final year in college.

- I want a guy that likes to play the game. He does.

Also, he was still injured at the combine and could have easily said so and waited for his pro-day to work out, but he didn't. the only thing he didn't do at the combine is the bench.

His stats at Ten, were pretty good, he's a motor penetrating DT and would fit in with what we want pretty darn well.

Not saying I know we will pick him, I don't have a problem with us picking him at 23 is all I'm trying to say. And I don't want the bottom of the tier at WR just because everyone thinks that's what we need.

Whoops.

S-A-R-C-A-S-M. Sarcasm.

No spelling bees for me......

That's the thing.

I got the sense that Harrell was pretty highly thought of at the start of the season, and had he not been injured, he might well have been a lower first round prospect by season's end.

His workouts might have moved him up into top 20.

Because he lost the season to injury his stock fell, and his workouts have moved him back up to where he should have been if not for that injury.

I get what you are saying, heck yeah, no telling how good the season could have went, he may have even been number 1 or 2 on the list of DT's.

I just didn't understand the "damaged goods" type of comment. It was a real injury and he still finished that game, I don't know that I could have done it......

He was humble and well spoken in his interview too, I know that doesn't mean everything but you can start to get a pretty good sense about a guy.

You know, Pacman sounded a little rehearsed in his interview with sanders, well Harrell sounded much more natural

Harrell does have an injury history aside from the biceps.
Broken ankle that cost him 5 or 6 games in his Soph(?) season, and another ankle injury in his Junior year, so it does lead to durability questions.

I admit, I hadn't heard about the other injuries, so maybe that's where that comes from.

My appologies to the "damaged goods" comment makers.....

:)

didn't the Chiefs have a Guard that blew a bicep and he never was the same?

left guard .... went to New York later to be near his sick kid

can't remember his name

Szott

Age might be a factor in recovery for that injury.

Harrell was injury prone in college........that's why I say that if you pick him you should just expect it.

I'm just going on what I think and I think this is a God awful DT year, 2 of these guys would be 1st rounders in a normal year the rest wouldn't, I don't want 2nd round talent in the first because the Chiefs wan't a DT so bad they forget what value is about.

and I guess I was just agreeing with you basically, except I think Ginn could be second round talent too.

Like I said I'm not a big fan of his either but I consider him 1st value, his special teams ability and speed puts him there.

By the way GoChiefs little report on him was wrong Todd McShay said he ran 4.39-4.49 in his 40's.

I'd rather have Ginn than one of the reach tackles like Tank Tyler.

Sorry, I thought we were just comparing the idea of taking either Ginn or Harrell, not tank.

I don't have a problem with WR as a first rounder, but think it should be Bowe or Jarrett, bigger, good blockers and good route runners, we have a couple speedy guys already. So that counts Ginn out in my opinion.

Tank is big, but I don't know that he's good fit for us, maybe if we got lucky enough for him to be there in the second, not for a first. However if Bowe and Jarrett are gone and Harrell is there, that wouldn't be a reach IMO. That's all I'm going for. Harrell over Ginn if that's the two choices. In reality though it's also going to depend on who else is available, CB or even OT, but I hope for someone that has starting potential for us.

I think they said Harrell could even play DE in a 3-4 and we have that as a possible package for us, and we need versitality on the d line because of the alcoholic allen.

which is why he'll probably go in the top half of the 2nd round.


you really don't want to draft a guy with questions in the 1st round.

I think Bowe is going to go before our pick honestly.....I think Revis will also.

I think we're gonna be lookin at Ginn who I think will go right around our pick, Jarrett, one of the rising workout corners like Eric Wright and those reach DTs.......