I say, just be yourself, Mr. beer me. I've always looked at it like this; if a girl will let you throw up on her and still take your calls, it's love.

FAX

I second what BD is saying, the DYD series will fundamentally change the way you deal with the women in your life.

Damn... I knew I should have thrown up! I always miss that!


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Well I thought so. He seems nervous and all. Maybe all of us here could convince her beer me isn't such a bad guy and all.

Sorta help get him out of the "Friend Zone" if you know what I mean. (I am pretty sure we can pull off getting him out of that "friend zone" too!).

Well two days is like industry standard....

The 2 day theory is for idgets... They all know it's a game.
call her when you want. women love the attention but not THAT MUCH ATTENTION.

Don't play those types of idiotic games. giver a call just don't bring up sex or flirting.

Rubbing one off before dates is one that I personally know works pretty well. In your case, you might want to rub two off. :D

The morning after you meet you arrange to send flowers on day two or three after your meeting. Keep the message simple. "I enjoyed getting to know you." Something like that. Avoid roses. They say way too much. Just something cheery and colorful like a spring mix. Ask them to put one exotic blossom in the mix, and make sure it stands out. You'll use that later when you talk to her, so make sure the florist tells you what flower they're going to use and what color. After they tell you, run over to the computer and look it up so you have some idea of what it is.

Now it's up to her to call you to thank you. She has the illusion that she's back in control of the situation and that's nothing but good at this point.

Don't mention the single exotic flower on the phone unless she brings it up.

You want to talk about how you requested that particularly unique flower because she's such a unique person. You wanted to include one flower that would stand out from the rest, because she stands out as a very special person. But you want to have that conversation in person the second time you get together rather than over the phone. Look away from her eyes as you're telling her, but look into them after and wait for a physical and verbal response.

Trust me. I'm the son of a florist. Those things can be powerful tools, but only if you know how to use them.

this thread is good information and some bullshit. I know a couple friends who broke all the rules being a pussy whiney bitch but they got married anyway. If it is ment to be it is ment to be i supposed. If you are just on the prowl I agree take the :we don't give a damn we don't give a ****: approach.

I agree with this. I've never seen the purpose with that stupid waiting game anyway. I did talk to a male friend of mine one time who had an interesting take on it. If you call a girl too soon, and she think's you're hot (or she's really interested), then she'll think it's cute that you couldn't wait to talk to her. On the other hand, if she was unsure about you (potential, but not hot), then she would see it a stalking/creepy/obsessive. I think that's true both ways.

I am old butshe is interested or not.

Suk up now and pay later or be UR self.

If they do not like you, it was not meant to be.
If a BB decides you, suck in life.

JMHO.

It's best to keep things simple. My advice is crass but effective. you need to lick it a bunch and flop out the junk and see if she'll latch on. I been married five years to a beautiful woman who works and supports my failing musical career 100%. My secret lick and flop lick and flop. It's important.

Does she have a station wagon full of kids?

No chick is out of your league, think that way and you'll land her

Well guys and gal... there's a lot of pretty interesting info in this thread. Most of the advice I'll read and forget... but there's a couple gems. :) I think I'm just gonna be myself. Imagine that for an idea. ;) She likes me enough to let me kiss her a few times at the end of the night so that whole getting me out of the friend zone thing..... Heh.

I called her the next afternoon because I told her I would. She sounded glad to hear from me and we're getting together again sometime this week. We both had a lot going on this weekend. I'll be talking to her Monday.

I'm not gonna provide play by play after that...:D but thanks everyone for their help... or at least attempts to help.... and for your apparent interst in my love life. Who knew?

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