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RustShack 07-29-2008 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK (Post 4877059)
If we're in the top 5 I'd expect us to be looking at QB, hard.

Or Oline, one of the two. I have a feeling we draft defense in the first round though. Defense!

Mecca 07-29-2008 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ (Post 4876707)
I don't think that will happen, Jenkins is tight in every aspect. He can play both safety and CB, and he is a lock down CB for sure. He plays CB 3/4 of the time, but will play S in certain packages.

It's in no way a knock on Jenkins who I feel is the better player, it's my theory on how the draft process works. I think Jenkins, Laurenaitis, and possibly Maualuga to an extent will be affected by returning when they were potential top 10 picks.

But it will affect Jenkins a bit due to his position the MLB's are probably not top 10 picks either way due to position.

But onto why I think that, when you have been on the radar for a long time people will forget all your positives and point out nothing but your flaws, while a late riser will have the positives reinforced while not being on the map long enough to have all of his negatives discussed nearly as much.

In the Jenkins/Davis battle I see a couple things that will hurt Jenkins, 1 he's been on the radar longer and Davis will be the late riser, when they workout I think Davis will post better numbers especially in the 40 I watched him catch Joe McKnight from behind...

The other thing that I think will factor in that some people probably don't know is that Vontae is Vernon Davis' brother, which is also why I think his workout will be stupid ridiculous good.

I think Jenkins is better but being on the radar longer, being more well known and then he likely won't post the same workout numbers at a position like CB, I think Davis has a legit chance of jumping him.

Mecca 07-29-2008 06:45 PM

This thread should be higher just because it's interesting!

DaKCMan AP 08-06-2008 12:06 PM

More on Harvin:

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A really good player when injured, Harvin vows he'll be even better

By Kyle Tucker
The Virginian-Pilot
© August 5, 2008

Here's a scary thought: Percy Harvin says he's been gimpy the last two seasons.

He says he had a bum wheel in 2006, when he was voted the Southeastern Conference's Freshman of the Year and helped the University of Florida win a national title. He claims he was hurting in 2007, when he was a first-team All-American.


No, seriously, the former Landstown High star says he had 1,285 yards in receptions, rushed for 1,192 more yards and averaged 11.4 yards per touch in college... all with a mysterious heel injury.

"I didn't feel right for years," he said.

That's not really even the scary part. This is: He says he's healthy these days.

"Oh, I'm real good now," Harvin said recently. "I'm running straight ahead almost full speed. I just have to get my cutting back, but I'll be ready. This surgery changed everything."


Harvin isn't sure about the name of the surgery he had after last season. Florida has been fairly vague about it. This much is known: A right heel injury, previously diagnosed as simple tendinitis, hampered Harvin for three years, dating to high school.

Some have questioned Harvin's durability in college; he missed practices and game time in each of his first two seasons with a laundry list of minor ailments, including migraines.

Most of it, he said, was really the heel.

"My other injuries were coming from me overcompensating," Harvin said. "Once they figured out what was really wrong, we had to call doctors all over the country to find one who could do the surgery.

"I think I was the first person in the country to have that surgery."
Whatever the procedure, however rare, Harvin has recovered nicely. He said two weeks ago that he was 90 percent, adding, "I don't even know what 100 percent is. The sky is the limit now."

Florida coach Urban Meyer said he doesn't expect any more issues with the heel. He also thinks Harvin will answer any remaining questions about his durability when the junior unveils his new body this fall. At SEC Media Days this summer, Meyer remarked, "We rocked him up."

Harvin now weighs more than 200 pounds, up from 185, and reportedly bench presses more than 400.
To go with his elite speed and quickness, Harvin is now one of the strongest pound-for-pound players on his team.
"Part of you wants to line him up at tailback and let him go," Meyer told reporters. "I think he would be one of the best tailbacks in the country. Handing him the football, getting him the ball, is going to be a big part of our offense."

Harvin said the Gators' first goal this season is an SEC title. But for Florida, ranked fifth in the preseason coaches' poll, there's always hope for more.
"Definitely," Harvin said. "We want that national title. We've got a lot of the missing pieces now in place. With our team chemistry right now, this should be one of those ridiculous-type years."

So ridiculous, in fact, that it isn't out of the realm of possibility that Harvin and his quarterback, Tim Tebow, could end up in New York in December as Heisman finalists. Tebow won it last year.

A teammate tandem has precedence. Former Southern California quarterback Matt Leinart won the Heisman in 2004, then moved over for Trojan running back/receiver Reggie Bush to win it the next year.

"I try not to think too much about that," Harvin said. "If you ask me, I'll say (Tebow) should win it. Ask him, he'll say I should. But the Heisman's not our real goal. It's that championship."

The hardware will be sorted out soon enough. For now, the facts are these: Harvin is healthy. The Gators are good.

And he'd like to add one more: "We expect to score every time we step on the field. We'll be a force to be reckoned with."

Kyle Tucker, (757) 446-2374, [email protected]


http://hamptonroads.com/2008/08/real...be-even-better


Direckshun 08-06-2008 12:11 PM

What QBs does everybody like?

Curious who you folks think I should watch. Give me a few names.

Opinions especially sought about Cullen Harper and Curtis Painter.

DaKCMan AP 08-06-2008 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 4895277)
What QBs does everybody like?

Curious who you folks think I should watch. Give me a few names.

Some of the top prospects are probably Matt Stafford (UGA), Sam Bradford (OU), Tim Tebow (UF), Hunter Cantwell (Louisville), Todd Boeckman (OSU), Rudy Carpenter (ASU), Graham Harrell (TT).

People either love Tebow or hate him. I think it gets decided this season.

DaKCMan AP 08-06-2008 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 4895277)
What QBs does everybody like?

Curious who you folks think I should watch. Give me a few names.

Opinions especially sought about Cullen Harper and Curtis Painter.

Harper had an impressive year last season and should improve this year. There's no reason he shouldn't. Painter is inconsistent and, although he has great size, Purdue QBs usually put up numbers.

I'd watch Harper more than Painter and I'd keep an eye on Hunter Cantwell too.

Buehler445 08-06-2008 12:20 PM

"Definitely," Harvin said. "We want that national title. We've got a lot of the missing pieces now in place. With our team chemistry right now, this should be one of those ridiculous-type years."

Bulletin Board Material

Is Harvin just a Junior?

DaKCMan AP 08-06-2008 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 4895292)
"Definitely," Harvin said. "We want that national title. We've got a lot of the missing pieces now in place. With our team chemistry right now, this should be one of those ridiculous-type years."

Bulletin Board Material

Is Harvin just a Junior?

True junior.

Direckshun 08-06-2008 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 4895291)
Harper had an impressive year last season and should improve this year. There's no reason he shouldn't. Painter is inconsistent and, although he has great size, Purdue QBs usually put up numbers.

I'd watch Harper more than Painter and I'd keep an eye on Hunter Cantwell too.

I know, but what are your takes on these guys.

Frankie 08-06-2008 02:57 PM

Since our '09 1st rounder is most likely a middle linebacker, who are the top 2 or 3 MLBs to watch?

Mecca 08-06-2008 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 4895616)
Since our '09 1st rounder is most likely a middle linebacker, who are the top 2 or 3 MLBs to watch?

I disagree with this, in todays game taking a MLB with a top 10 pick isn't really a good idea....they should be taking a QB or a DE, or maybe a OT and that's it...or Michael Crabtree if it breaks that way.

DaKCMan AP 08-06-2008 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 4895616)
Since our '09 1st rounder is most likely a middle linebacker, who are the top 2 or 3 MLBs to watch?

IMO, the top 2 MLBs are Rey Maualuga from USC and Brandon Spikes from UF. I think Spikes will be a better pro (and better fit for our style D) than Laurinaitis.

El Jefe 08-06-2008 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 4895779)
IMO, the top 2 MLBs are Rey Maualuga from USC and Brandon Spikes from UF. I think Spikes will be a better pro (and better fit for our style D) than Laurinaitis.

Disagree, JL fits perfectly into our defense. He is great in pass coverage, he has had quite a few Interceptions, he is great in run D, and great at getting to the QB. He IMO is the best LB in the Nation, I think Rey and JL are close, but JL is better IMO. I think Rey is better than Spikes also.

Watch out for Marcus Freeman from tOSU, he is a playmaker 5th year senior, he is very savvy and very smart. He was an All-American, and look for him in the bottom of the 1st, depending on how well we/he does this year.

Malcolm Jenkins is the Champ Bailey of the NCAA.

El Jefe 08-06-2008 03:58 PM

Harper had an impressive year last season and should improve this year. There's no reason he shouldn't. Painter is inconsistent and, although he has great size, Purdue QBs usually put up numbers.

I'd watch Harper more than Painter and I'd keep an eye on Hunter Cantwell too.
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I agree with you on Harper and Painter. Painter I have watched every year, he is truly a system QB. Purdue can't run the ball, so seeing their QB's put up 300yds and 2tds a game is the usual, unless they play someone with a great run D, then their offense just sucks.


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