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Nightfyre 09-24-2008 09:57 AM

Also, if everyone comes out, it wouldn't suck to snag Freeman, who could freefall to around the fourth. He also has the physical tools and could provide some depth.

Mecca 09-24-2008 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 5049223)
Also, if everyone comes out, it wouldn't suck to snag Freeman, who could freefall to around the fourth. He also has the physical tools and could provide some depth.

A 6'6 dude with a big arm is not falling....those guys are called combine risers.

Mecca 09-24-2008 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5049213)
Bradford > Stafford > Sanchez > BYU QB (cant remember name) > Tebow > Daniels

i disagree with that but hey.

Nightfyre 09-24-2008 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049228)
A 6'6 dude with a big arm is not falling....those guys are called combine risers.

If everyone came out, this would be a very deep QB draft all of a sudden. There would be some great talent at low rounds.

the Talking Can 09-24-2008 10:03 AM

realistically, where will daniels go?

6th, 7th rounder a la Brennan and other spread offense QBs with video game numbers

4th, 5th...someone thinks he's a "2nd day" steal?

3rd...someone is convinced he is a an immediate QBOTF?

2nd....height be damned?

Rausch 09-24-2008 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049228)
A 6'6 dude with a big arm is not falling....those guys are called combine risers.

Or preseason GM porn.

The intang....in.......the stuff one can't measure is what truly makes a QB.

It's why Leaf and Mirer sucked and Montana and Brady didn't.

Leadership, guile, heart, desire, will, fortitude.

Your QB is your leader. If he can't lead he won't last...

Rausch 09-24-2008 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5049237)
realistically, where will daniels go?

6th, 7th rounder a la Brennan and other spread offense QBs with video game numbers

4th, 5th...someone thinks he's a "2nd day" steal?

3rd...someone is convinced he is a an immediate QBOTF?

2nd....height be damned?

I think someone will risk him in the 4th-5th.

Noth that where you start is what matters...

Nightfyre 09-24-2008 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5049237)
6th, 7th rounder a la Brennan and other spread offense QBs with video game numbers

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Mecca 09-24-2008 10:05 AM

Daniel is probably going anywhere from 5th to undrafted....

And um Tom Brady is 6'4 it's not like he's some midget.

Rausch 09-24-2008 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049244)
Daniel is probably going anywhere from 5th to undrafted....

And um Tom Brady is 6'4 it's not like he's some midget.

No, he was just a forgotton extra that got his only shot due to an injury.

I'll bet that 6'4" is why he won those rings and the faith of his team and coaching staff.

Or perhaps it was his resilience and precision. His ball placement and decision making. His calm nature in in the storm.

I won't argue that being tall helps but it sure as hell doesn't make a QB...

Nightfyre 09-24-2008 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 5049259)
No, he was just a forgotton extra that got his only shot due to an injury.

I'll bet that 6'4" is why he won those rings and the faith of his team and coaching staff.

Or perhaps it was his resilience and precision. His ball placement and decision making. His calm nature in in the storm.

I won't argue that being tall helps but it sure as hell doesn't make a QB...

Seeing over your O-linemen is a prerequisite for both ball placement and decision making.

Mecca 09-24-2008 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 5049259)
No, he was just a forgotton extra that got his only shot due to an injury.

I'll bet that 6'4" is why he won those rings and the faith of his team and coaching staff.

Or perhaps it was his resilience and precision. His ball placement and decision making. His calm nature in in the storm.

I won't argue that being tall helps but it sure as hell doesn't make a QB...

You're basically describing Matt Ryan...who I add alot of people here didn't like. There are plenty of things I think are overrated when it comes to scouting QB's but I would never in a million years draft a QB under 6'2.

Mecca 09-24-2008 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 5049261)
Seeing over your O-linemen is a prerequisite for both ball placement and decision making.

By the way if Sam Bradford can get to 240 I think he's as similar prospect to Matt Ryan.

the Talking Can 09-24-2008 10:18 AM

i'll be honest about daniels, i'm prejudiced by all the qbs that come out of Texas Tech and do nothing in the nfl....they look unstoppable in college...

that may or may not be a fair comparison....he may have more heart/talent/whatever i can't say....

but if he were there in the 6th, i'd take him....

MIAdragon 09-24-2008 10:19 AM

This is a great idea!


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