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SAUTO 12-16-2008 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5302774)
Tell me in a couple years when Warner is 40 and they have to find a QB...playing a system that the guy who's 24 can't play so a 38 year old can succeed isn't very smart...

how many conference championships have they won in the past? how many home playoff games? NUFF SAID for that franchise, you HAVE to start somewhere

Mecca 12-16-2008 07:22 PM

They aren't going to the Superbowl this year either...it looks great now, in a year or 2 it will look really stupid. You flush a high draft choice because you are married to a system...Leinart was perfectly fine under Dennis Greens west coast offense.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-16-2008 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5302765)
once again: how has that worked for arizona?

Long term it's going to be a debacle. They basically wasted the prime "do we have something?" year with Leinart this year. It was a shortsighted move.

doomy3 12-16-2008 07:22 PM

First Mecca says this:

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5302459)
Someone will get upset cause he's been mostly a 3-4 guy.

Then trashes Dorsey with this:

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5302498)
But you'll ruin Dorsey man! I'm not being serious I just had to do that...if we were to play 3-4 nearly every front 7 player on this team would need to be let go.

Then changes it to this:

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5302739)
If you hire a coach that values scheme over players you'll get Arizona where their head coach hire basically flushed Leinarts draft choice.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5302774)
Tell me in a couple years when Warner is 40 and they have to find a QB...playing a system that the guy who's 24 can't play so a 38 year old can succeed isn't very smart...

:spock:

So, are you the guy who will get upset because he's mostly a 3-4 guy?

Mecca 12-16-2008 07:23 PM

No because I don't think the Chiefs are going to hire him but in fairness if anyone came in here and played 3-4 be damned it would be pretty stupid.

And all I did was give an example of how a coach being married to a system flushed a high pick, but hey you laughed at that, good intellect.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-16-2008 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5302790)
First Mecca says this:



Then trashes Dorsey with this:



Then changes it to this:






:spock:

So, are you the guy who will get upset because he's mostly a 3-4 guy?

No, that's me.

doomy3 12-16-2008 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5302792)
No because I don't think the Chiefs are going to hire him but in fairness if anyone came in here and played 3-4 be damned it would be pretty stupid.

Because it would ruin Dorsey? Or what's your reasoning?

SAUTO 12-16-2008 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5302786)
They aren't going to the Superbowl this year either...it looks great now, in a year or 2 it will look really stupid. You flush a high draft choice because you are married to a system...Leinart was perfectly fine under Dennis Greens west coast offense.

maybe the new regime wasnt happy with leinart's work ethic, party lifestyle, injury issues. MAYBE?

doomy3 12-16-2008 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5302792)
No because I don't think the Chiefs are going to hire him but in fairness if anyone came in here and played 3-4 be damned it would be pretty stupid.

And all I did was give an example of how a coach being married to a system flushed a high pick, but hey you laughed at that, good intellect.

Maybe the high pick got flushed because he sucks balls?

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-16-2008 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5302795)
Because it would ruin Dorsey? Or what's your reasoning?

:doh!:

Mecca 12-16-2008 07:26 PM

Go look at his rookie year under Green, he doesn't have the arm to play in a vertical offense simple as that.

I think it's funny to see people think it's acceptable to flush your high draft choice QB because your coach wants to play another system. Great they made the playoffs, in a another year they'll need a QB again, brilliant.

It's basically indefensible to say it's ok to play an offense that a QB you just drafted can't play in.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-16-2008 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5302805)
Go look at his rookie year under Green, he doesn't have the arm to play in a vertical offense simple as that.

I think it's funny to see people think it's acceptable to flush your high draft choice QB because your coach wants to play another system. Great they made the playoffs, in a another year they'll need a QB again, brilliant.

In a way, it makes sense. It's the True Fan coming out. It's all about this year, future be damned.

SAUTO 12-16-2008 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5302805)
Go look at his rookie year under Green, he doesn't have the arm to play in a vertical offense simple as that.

I think it's funny to see people think it's acceptable to flush your high draft choice QB because your coach wants to play another system. Great they made the playoffs, in a another year they'll need a QB again, brilliant.

It's basically indefensible to say it's ok to play an offense that a QB you just drafted can't play in.

man you ARE a flip flopper, you dont even LIKE leinart. you have said so many times.

Mecca 12-16-2008 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5302813)
In a way, it makes sense. It's the True Fan coming out. It's all about this year, future be damned.

It's really stupid, I don't care if they hate SC or Matt Leinart or both, a coach flushing a high draft choice over a system is indefensible.

doomy3 12-16-2008 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5302801)
:doh!:

I'm not asking you. Clearly that is your reasoning.

I want to hear what Mecca's reasoning. Is it because it would ruin Dorsey, Mecca?


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