Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5563186)

Hali was good in coverage on zone blitzes. He has a good vertical, he has good initial burst, and most of the time he will be rushing the passer, not dropping back into coverage.

Most 3-4 defenses are played more like 5-2 defenses. Which is WHY I think drafting Curry is what will make this work.

With DJ and Curry, the Chiefs will have two very fast, very athletic linebackers that can cover sideline to sideline. The one difference is that Curry actually defeats blocks and tackles well. DJ will have to defeat fewer blocks in this scheme BECAUSE the defensive line isn't trying to rush upfield, just trying to tie up blockers.

The other part of the new scheme is that it will allow Pollard to drop down into the box more, again, a good fit for him.

I know that I am in the minority as far as Hali goes. I am cool with that. If I am right, then great. If I am wrong, I am going to catch it from EVERYONE.

Thems the breaks.

Originally Posted by General Malaise (Post 5563195)

What makes everyone here so sure Dorsey can't be a 3/4 Nose tackle. He is around 300lbs and at 6'1 he is bound to good at getting leverage. Let him put on 20 pounds and maybe you have a two gap nose tackle

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 5560723)

3 average years. The guy was a First Round draft pick and projected to be great. He has produced an average of 6 sacks and 43 tackles per season.

Yes, the defense sucks... But Tamba hasn't lived up to his hype.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5563199)

Dorsey strength is that he has the quickness to penetrate gaps and get into the backfield.

He was used as the nose in the cover two, which limited his effectiveness.

If you ask him to add 20 pounds (or more) then you are completely eliminating the things that made him a top 5 pick.

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5563257)

At LSU, he was asked to tie up blockers and he did. He will be asked to do the same thing now. His quick feet will help him keep position. He also sheds blocks well and will be able to make plays on the runner. I think he will be good at either NT or DE.

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5563186)

Hali was good in coverage on zone blitzes. He has a good vertical, he has good initial burst, and most of the time he will be rushing the passer, not dropping back into coverage.

Most 3-4 defenses are played more like 5-2 defenses. Which is WHY I think drafting Curry is what will make this work.

With DJ and Curry, the Chiefs will have two very fast, very athletic linebackers that can cover sideline to sideline. The one difference is that Curry actually defeats blocks and tackles well. DJ will have to defeat fewer blocks in this scheme BECAUSE the defensive line isn't trying to rush upfield, just trying to tie up blockers.

The other part of the new scheme is that it will allow Pollard to drop down into the box more, again, a good fit for him.

I know that I am in the minority as far as Hali goes. I am cool with that. If I am right, then great. If I am wrong, I am going to catch it from EVERYONE.

Thems the breaks.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 5563270)

Most people believe that was a huge misuse of his strengths and he certainly looked outmatched when he lined up in the nose in the NFL. Keep in mind that in college, he got a lot of push many times from driving blockers into the backfield--he can't do that on the pro level. Guards are so much bigger. And the other thing is that many question the strength of Dorsey in the legs. He's got tremendous upper-body strength, but the concerns about the health of his knees might have kept him from building the strength in his legs that would really help him gain that leverage.

Nose tackle is not a good use of his strengths. He is a typical 4-3 DT and he should be playing one-gap. At DE, he could actually do okay, as long as his height isn't a big problem. Unfortunately, it keeps him from exploding into the backfield, which is his strength, but hey... that's just a sacrifice we'll have to make.

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter (Post 5563341)

I'm a bit in this camp as well.

Many times, as SCF points out, the 3-4 becomes a 5-2/5-3 (OLBs are playing on the Line with little or no pass coverage responsibility). When Pollard is playing in the box, that effectively gives us 3 LBs anyway.

The concern I have is that although our young corners are good, will they be effective in more man-to-man and press coverage. In addition to the NT and Rushbacker we seem to lack....we probably need a tough press corner too.

I could see us using the 3-4 some this year, particularly on first and second down. However, in clear passing situations....we'll be going with a traditional nickle or dime package more often than not. Thus, until we get those three positions filled with solid guys, I suspect at best....we'll be running a hybrid.

We are just too far away from being able to field a real 3-4 to be able to run it very successfully this year.

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5563653)

Rumor is Dorsey played close to 325 last year and that it cost him most of his explosion. Because that's too heavy for him.

And no, I don't think he had a bad year, either.

Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5560912)

I want Pioli to cut all these ****ing wastes of space just to shut the reeruns on this board up.

WHY AM I SO ANGRY?

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5563653)

Rumor is Dorsey played close to 325 last year and that it cost him most of his explosion. Because that's too heavy for him.

And no, I don't think he had a bad year, either.

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter (Post 5564087)

Then I say, have him cut 10-15 pounds, put him at DE and find a REAL damn NT somewhere. I honestly think he could be a beast at DE in a 3-4.

Originally Posted by Blick (Post 5560743)

Yeah, our defense was money last year in the 4-3. Why change it?