Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5650392)

No offense intended, but you're a ****ing idiot of epic proportions.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5650378)

Not bad, but I'd go like this.

Sanchez
Stafford
Tradedown
Tradedown
Tradedown

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5650381)

They hired ****her Gunningham.

It's a mistake to underestimate the stupidity of the Lions mangement.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5650282)

There are Cassel backers right here on this forum saying he'll never be Peyton Manning/Tom Brady, but more of a Matt Hasselbeck type QB. I'm more confident Stafford or Sanchez has the POTENTIAL to be a top 3 QB in the NFL than does Cassel.

You don't value the future of a long-term prospect at QB? No, Cassel will likely start this year. If he does well, he will start the year after that, too. But if he's mediocre, we're pretty much stuck with him. I don't know of many other good opportunities to find a QB like Stafford or Sanchez, where we can find ourselves with a draft position high enough to get the guy we want.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5650198)

He doesn't understand the value of the QB position....

But on another note if you want to talk about that Texas thing, give me Texas players that have succeeded in the NFL in the Mack Brown era.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5650441)

Come draft day, if it's ANYONE but Curry, there are going to be a lot of sandy ****ing vags around here. Wait, there already are...

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5650481)

If we don't draft Stafford/Sanchez or trade down, there's going to be a mass pile on of itchy assholes in here as well.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5650497)

C'mon, Frank.

You're too ****ing smart to fall for this shit.

Look around.

The QB guys have acknowledged that it's a long shot - and have listed other players they'd prefer if Pioli chose not to go QB at #3.

I've yet to read a SINGLE post where a QB backer has painted himself into a corner by claiming QB-or-bust.

Whereas MANY members of the Curry crowd have done EXACTLY that - say that there is NO POSSIBLE WAY we take a QB at #3, and say that Curry is the ONLY player worth that pick.

How anyone can think they know what Scott Pioli WILL do on draft day is amazing to me. The guy is as unpredictable as they come. But according to some on here, there is a ZERO% chance that he takes a QB, and it's a stone cold LOCK that we take Curry.

Foolish.

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5650508)

Who said Curry is the ONLY player worth the #3 pick?

Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5650220)

Okie dokie, let's look at the last ten years:

1998: No UT player drafted in the first round
1999: Ricky Williams - Dope smoker deluxe, but the dude could run and run well.
2000: No UT player drafted in first round
2001: Leonard Davis & Casey Hampton - Both Pro Bowlers
2002: Mike Williams & Quentin Jammer - Williams a bust, Jammer has started every game but two for the past six seasons for the Chargers
2003: No UT player drafted in first round
2004: Roy Williams & Marcus Tubbs - Williams in the Pro Bowl; Tubbs a bust out of the league.
2005: Cedric Benson & Derrick Johnson - Benson put up his most productive season last season, and Johnson has been the Chiefs starting LB since he was drafted
2006: Vince Young & Michael Huff - Young looked good for a bit, then snap. Jury is still out. Huff started every game first two seasons, then got benched five games into last season.
2007: Michael Griffin & Aaron Ross - Griffin started all games last season, and ended up with 75 tackles, 11 pdf and seven interceptions. Looks to be a stud. Ross started 15 games last season, 52 tackles, 8 pdf, 3 interceptions and a td on one of those.
2008: No UT player taken in the first round.

Doesn't look all that bad to me. A couple of Pro Bowl guys, a bunch of solid players and starters and just two certified busts. Seems like the UT boys have actually done pretty good. So, what's the problem again with Texas players?

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5650530)

Read much?

Use the search function, I'm not doing the work because you choose to ignore people.

There have been numerous comments about how Curry is the only pick worth #3, and that everyone else would be a reach.

Shouldn't be hard to find.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5650497)

C'mon, Frank.

You're too ****ing smart to fall for this shit.

Look around.

The QB guys have acknowledged that it's a long shot - and have listed other players they'd prefer if Pioli chose not to go QB at #3.

I've yet to read a SINGLE post where a QB backer has painted himself into a corner by claiming QB-or-bust.

Whereas MANY members of the Curry crowd have done EXACTLY that - say that there is NO POSSIBLE WAY we take a QB at #3, and say that Curry is the ONLY player worth that pick.

How anyone can think they know what Scott Pioli WILL do on draft day is amazing to me. The guy is as unpredictable as they come. But according to some on here, there is a ZERO% chance that he takes a QB, and it's a stone cold LOCK that we take Curry.

Foolish.

Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5650065)

Knowing that we now have Cassel as a QB, you people are still putting Stafford and Sanchez as your first choices for the Chiefs pick?

Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5650192)

Yeah, because pissing away that pick on another quarterback when we just got Cassel is the epitome of football genius. If that's a smart football move, then I guess I'm a ****ing reerun in this little opposite world you got going here.

Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5650220)

1998: No UT player drafted in the first round
1999: Ricky Williams - Dope smoker deluxe, but the dude could run and run well.
2000: No UT player drafted in first round
2001: Leonard Davis & Casey Hampton - Both Pro Bowlers
2002: Mike Williams & Quentin Jammer - Williams a bust, Jammer has started every game but two for the past six seasons for the Chargers
2003: No UT player drafted in first round
2004: Roy Williams & Marcus Tubbs - Williams in the Pro Bowl; Tubbs a bust out of the league.
2005: Cedric Benson & Derrick Johnson - Benson put up his most productive season last season, and Johnson has been the Chiefs starting LB since he was drafted
2006: Vince Young & Michael Huff - Young looked good for a bit, then snap. Jury is still out. Huff started every game first two seasons, then got benched five games into last season.
2007: Michael Griffin & Aaron Ross - Griffin started all games last season, and ended up with 75 tackles, 11 pdf and seven interceptions. Looks to be a stud. Ross started 15 games last season, 52 tackles, 8 pdf, 3 interceptions and a td on one of those.
2008: No UT player taken in the first round.

Doesn't look all that bad to me.