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Mecca 05-20-2009 05:44 PM

Have you ever even seen the guy play, this is funny, he is today a more complete player than Larry Johnson.

Hammock Parties 05-20-2009 05:46 PM

He might be a better blocker but I doubt he is a better receiver (LJ is still getting unfairly criticized after a couple of dropped passes three ****ing years ago he is a GOOD receiver) and you're nuts if you think Moreno is putting up 1700 yards.

FAX 05-20-2009 05:47 PM

It's really kind of crazy. We have some pretty decent RBs. In fact, I recall that a lot of peeps considered us to be deep at the RB position last year. Problem is, our overall offense was so inconsistent and the line so poor, we couldn't really get any of these guys in a rhythm or even get a good feel for their potential.

Any reasonable person has to chalk LJ up as a question mark at this point - for a variety of reasons. Charles has potential and could probably develop, but he hasn't been given much of a chance. Change of pace guy? Maybe, but he needs to be able to fill out his game ... blocking, pass receiving, etc. Cheesy is the probably the closest thing we have to an all-purpose back, but he's been injured and hasn't played much since the 2007 season. Have we cut or traded Battle? He's an unknown as is Javarris.

Personally, I think we're an utter mystery at that position. Not that it matters, much. You can't run it if you can't block it. Somebody tell Pioli that we need to rebuild the OL back to its status in the glory days. Once that's accomplished, our RBs will be much better.

FAX

Mecca 05-20-2009 05:50 PM

Everyone in the league has RB's that's kind of the point, there's maybe a handful of teams that have issue at the position.

Hammock Parties 05-20-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5780877)
Everyone in the league has RB's that's kind of the point, there's maybe a handful of teams that have issue at the position.

The Chiefs suck at the position, right?

Mecca 05-20-2009 05:55 PM

They're ok at the position other than the issue of having an aging player with a huge contract at an expendable position.

FAX 05-20-2009 05:58 PM

That's true, Mr. Mecca. It's real early. Frankly, I'm far more concerned about OL than RB. I haven't seen our OL put a solid, complete game in the books for years.

FAX

Hammock Parties 05-20-2009 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5780891)
They're ok at the position other than the issue of having an aging player with a huge contract at an expendable position.

Yeah shit LJ is eating up ALL the cap room.

SHIT!

Mecca 05-20-2009 06:08 PM

I love that excuse, yea we're under the cap it doesn't matter so we can overpay guys!

orange 05-20-2009 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5780854)
I can't believe we're actually having an argument that someone WOULD take that slow mother****er over LJ.

LJ will outproduce Knowshon Sloweno in 09. WRITE IT DOWN!

Don't worry, I did. :D

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5780861)
He might be a better blocker but I doubt he is a better receiver (LJ is still getting unfairly criticized after a couple of dropped passes three ****ing years ago he is a GOOD receiver) and you're nuts if you think Moreno is putting up 1700 yards.

Moreno won't rush for 1700 yds because that's not the system McDaniels runs. He might approach it in all-purpose yds, though.

Hammock Parties 05-20-2009 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5780931)
I love that excuse, yea we're under the cap it doesn't matter so we can overpay guys!

His contract is essentially irrelevant. It was big when he signed it. Now, not so much.

Quit bitching and get ready for more 65-yard runs. God.

Cormac 05-20-2009 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5780444)
No, you have missed the point.

The statistics bear out that if Thigpen and Cassel threw an equal number of passes, over the course of a season, Thigpen would turn the ball over more.

I give up.

Reerun_KC 05-20-2009 07:21 PM

Amazing, this reminds me of the DFB, Hootie, Claythan love fest over Huard a few years ago...

This pretty much gurantees LJ being a big worthless pussy for the upcoming season....

Cormac 05-20-2009 07:23 PM

FWIW, I would take McFadden, Bush and Skip Towne over our current stable of RBs.

the Talking Can 05-20-2009 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5780661)
This is what I posted right after the draft...

Watch I will now provide a take as to why I think this draft creates issues that has nothing to do with Scott Pioli.

Everyone knows I like Mark Sanchez right...but when you decide you are going to trade for Matt Cassel and essentially say this is our guy, you don't set him up to fail.

When the Chiefs decided they would trade Tony Gonzalez, then go into the draft which was very deep at OL and WR and proceed to draft a bunch of defensive players in what is considered a weak defensive year. This is called being married to a defensive scheme and trying to shoehorn it in no matter what.

If you want to say Tyson Jackson was the right pick you can, but after that they really should have focused on the deep OL and WR positions in the draft. Leaving Matt Cassel with 1 dependable receiver and no upgrades on the Oline is just asking for him to look bad and get his brains beat in.

That is how you ruin a player, when you take a young guy and decide he is your franchise you do things to put him in a position to succeed not fail. What the Chiefs did this weekend was not fair to Matt Cassel.

fair?

wtf?

why can't people admit that pioli and haley have their own reasons for what they did?

they looked at the team, looked at the draft, and started a process of rebuilding based on their own evaluations of players and schemes and priorities....it may turn out to be horribly wrong, it may be an epic fail....but, for the love of god admit that they have their own methods and justifications...

they clearly have different evaluations of which problems needed to be addressed first, and which could wait, and what type of duress Cassel can manage for a year....


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