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Sweet Daddy Hate 07-12-2009 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5896564)
Bowe, Bradley, and Engram can be a pretty deadly trio. Hell DVD as a fourth option isn't bad at all either.

As pass heavy as this offense will be, too much depth is just about enough.

Micjones 07-12-2009 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 5896576)
What do ya mean? I've said this before this is the best WR core the Chiefs have had in sometime. Bowe is a beast, Bradley can stretch the field, and Engram is money on 3rd down. If the Chiefs can get any production from LJ & Charles this will be a good offense.

Mark Bradley hasn't been able to stay on the field.
He's easily this team's 2nd best pass-catcher after Bowe.
If he goes down... You have either Darling, Webb, or a 36-year old Engram vying for the starting job. Darling and Webb are major underchievers. Who knows whether or not Engram can be counted on.

Without a good #2 Bowe's gonna see a lot of double teams.

Micjones 07-12-2009 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5896564)
Bowe, Bradley, and Engram can be a pretty deadly trio. Hell DVD as a fourth option isn't bad at all either.

IF Bradley can stay healthy. I think history has proven that to be unlikely.

Pioli Zombie 07-12-2009 09:59 PM

Ok ya'll know I'm a Pioli butt boy. But to even insinuate this a good receiver corp right now would be delusional. there will be other moves. The TG trade was not about 2009. It was about the long term. It won't be pretty this year. Look for defensive improvement and hope for a 5-11 record and be patient.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 07-12-2009 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5896700)
IF Bradley can stay healthy. I think history has proven that to be unlikely.

Right, but we DO have a system that places a premium on physical conditioning so we might not have seen the best of him yet.

Micjones 07-12-2009 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5896701)
Ok ya'll know I'm a Pioli butt boy. But to even insinuate this a good receiver corp right now would be delusional. there will be other moves. The TG trade was not about 2009. It was about the long term. It won't be pretty this year. Look for defensive improvement and hope for a 5-11 record and be patient.
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I'm willing to be patient.
What I'm wondering though is why you'd stunt the growth of ascending players like Bowe and Cassel who need another reliable target to take the pressure off of both of them and contribute to their maturation? If there were NO options available to help improve the corps you might have an argument.

Micjones 07-12-2009 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5896705)
Right, but we DO have a system that places a premium on physical conditioning so we might not have seen the best of him yet.

I think being in better physical condition will help, but it's not as though he began his career in Kansas City. Furthermore, it's not like the injury bug just got his address last season. He's always struggled to stay healthy.

RustShack 07-12-2009 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5896710)
I'm willing to be patient.
What I'm wondering though is why you'd stunt the growth of ascending players like Bowe and Cassel who need another reliable target to take the pressure off of both of them and contribute to their maturation? If there were NO options available to help improve the corps you might have an argument.

Maybe Haley would rather Cassel get used to the system instead of stunting his growth and running the old system that utilizes the TE.

RustShack 07-12-2009 10:06 PM

Engram is our new Gonzalez, he just plays at a position Haley wants to use instead of TE.

Halfcan 07-12-2009 10:08 PM

Losing Tony G will be huge for the Chiefs-pretty dumb move on their part.

chiefzilla1501 07-12-2009 10:08 PM

I don't understand the move.

You spent a 2nd round pick on a QB. You should do everything in your power to surround him with as many weapons as possible so he can succeed.

If Cassel doesn't light it up in the first few weeks, I can tell you what will happen. The fans will turn on him, will boo him off the field, and will scream for Thigpen to start. I wish it weren't true, but it's the sad reality.

And trading away your #1 target and not doing much to shore up the o-line doesn't help Cassel.

Jethopper 07-12-2009 10:10 PM

The best player at his position ever will be hard to replace?

splatbass 07-12-2009 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5895860)
If we wanted a great receiver at TE we wouldn't have traded him. Gonzalez replacement will come from the WR position.

Yup. TE isn't an important position in Haley's offense. They obviously didn't want to spend that kind of money on one.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-12-2009 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5896713)
I think being in better physical condition will help, but it's not as though he began his career in Kansas City. Furthermore, it's not like the injury bug just got his address last season. He's always struggled to stay healthy.

Where was he at before KC? Didn't he come from OSU?

Mecca 07-12-2009 10:11 PM

That's fine in theory we just don't have those receivers at the moment.


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