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Red Dawg 08-19-2009 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5984499)
I think Croyle has one of the five best arms in the NFL. He has the kind of arm that is truly impressive in person. He has a better arm that the beloved Sanchez. He has a better arm than Alex Smith. He has a better arm than Leinart. He has an arm comparable to Cutler, or even Elway or Favre in their prime. Not quite as good, but would definitely give those guys a run for their money.

I think Croyle has a ton of leadership. I think Croyle has a ton of mobility.

About the only things that Croyle doesn't have are experience and durability.

Here lies the problem.... he won't get much experience if he can't last more than a half of a football game....

Some of it is just bad luck.... and bad offensive lines.

In reality, he is too tough for his own good. He will stand in the pocket in the face of a strong rush to deliver the ball. He will run for yardage and take the hits.

The guy has come back from so many injuries. He is like a boxer who just keeps getting up.... when so many of us... (Me included),by now would have just hung em' up.

I admire his resolve. I think it is unfortunate that the most talented QB in Chiefs camp right now is also the one that can't be counted on.

This ia great analogy. If he had the physical make up to be a starter he would be great. His arm is a cannon with a quick release and he can survey the field but his body can't take any punishment.

penguinz 08-19-2009 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 5984455)
What I don't understand is why Croyle hasn't gotten bigger knowing his durability weakness.

Heck, I'm a really small guy. I weighed 121lbs when I graduated high school. Two years later, I weighed 171 because I worked very hard in the gym.

Hell, I could gain more muscle mass if I were a professional athlete. And, I'm not doing anything exotic with supplements.

I understand he's in an NFL conditioning program and perhaps he's just a rather thin guy who's already maxed out his body, but if I were him, I'd be juiced to the gills with HgH. Its on the banned substance list, but they don't test for it. Of course, I wouldn't use mega doses because that can be very bad if you have unknown tumors: in that case, HgH stimulates tumor growth.

ROFL

BigRedChief 08-19-2009 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 5984198)
How does he suck, other than getting injured easily?

correct. He can have all the talent in the world but if he can't stay on the field, why does it matter? You can't count on the guy. An a NFL QB, a successful QB must be able to be counted on, be consistent.

milkman 08-19-2009 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5984509)
I never heard of those people, and I can't see a reason (other than hating anything from Patriot Nation) for not wanting the best available.

When you say you never heard of those people, are you saying you didn't see anyone else who would have preferred a different GM hire (like myself and OnTheWarpath), or that you never heard of Eric Decosta or George KoKinus?

CHIEFS58 08-19-2009 07:40 AM

good grief...its a brand new system. its gonna take some time. we cant win the super bowl overnight. its gonna take work and a year or two to get better. everyone needs to take their expectations down about 20 pegs. its just not going to happen.

the Talking Can 08-19-2009 07:44 AM

Kent Babb is freaking clueless.

Listening to him on 810 and he can't tell you anything even after being at camp all this time. He just dogs on everyone Teicher style as a way of hiding his complete lack of insight.

Could the star hire more miserable bastards?

milkman 08-19-2009 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5984567)
Kent Babb is freaking clueless.

Listening to him on 810 and he can't tell you anything even after being at camp all this time. He just dogs on everyone Teicher style as a way of hiding his complete lack of insight.

Could the star hire more miserable bastards?

Claythan and Nick.

Otter 08-19-2009 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5984060)
Yeah, according to local radio... all our QBs look like ass. We're doomed.

But then, I've heard them hype everyone up before... and we were doomed then too.

I'm watching this season with low expectations. Scott Pioli and crew are taking over a very, very bad team and it's gonna take time to rebuild and get the Herm Edwards stank off. Anyone who thinks otherwise is setting themselves up for heartache.

Thoughts on this thread:
1. I'd love to see Brodie make #2 on the depth chart
2. Our QBs are throwing to a patch work WR corp, neither is going to look good

Everyone's mind set right now should be "future" and "re-build".

the Talking Can 08-19-2009 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 5984578)
I'm watching this season with low expectations. Scott Pioli and crew are taking over a very, very bad team and it's gonna take time to rebuild and get the Herm Edwards stank off. Anyone who thinks otherwise is setting themselves up for heartache.

Thoughts on this thread:
1. I'd love to see Brodie make #2 on the depth chart
2. Our QBs are throwing to a patch work WR corp, neither is going to look good

Everyone's mind set right now should be "future" and "re-build".

dare I say "rebuilding, get over it"

splatbass 08-19-2009 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 5984310)
He doesn't suck. Never has. Just can't stay healthy.

With good conditioning and a decent OL he might be ok. Herm had a history of QB injuries, I'd lay some of the blame on him.

HemiEd 08-19-2009 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5983851)
And anyway it's preseason no one should really be flipping out.

I agree, and I am one of the guys that stood by Brodie last season.

But, I am not going to get too excited, until he shows he can get back up, after being clobbered by a couple guys getting revenge for Brady.

BigMeatballDave 08-19-2009 08:56 AM

Sure, lets start the season with Croyle. Then Cassel can finish the season during the 2nd quarter of that 1st game.

BigMeatballDave 08-19-2009 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5983844)
If Croyle and Thigpen could be traded, they should be. If that's not possible, they should be cut.

Both are about as useful as a gorgeous pair of tits on a bear.

ROFL

Brock 08-19-2009 09:00 AM

It would be KC's luck for Croyle to turn into Rich Gannon with a live arm.

BigMeatballDave 08-19-2009 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5983865)
Cassel was a 7th round draft choice for a reason.. I am hoping he is worth a shit, but wont be surprised if he is gone within 3-4 years as we continue to get better.

And no I dont think Croyle is the answer either, but neither is Mark Castle...

Come on, dude. You are smarter than this. :doh!:


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