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OnTheWarpath15 08-26-2009 07:42 PM

Exactly as I called it just after the trade.

The excuses have already started.

Everyone is getting them ready early, that way when we go 3-13 all the blame is deflected away from the supposed franchise QB.

Mecca 08-26-2009 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6004206)
Exactly as I called it just after the trade.

The excuses have already started.

Everyone is getting them ready early, that way when we go 3-13 all the blame is deflected away from the supposed franchise QB.

All of those excuses were set for Croyle too...people want so badly to believe that the guy is the answer it's never his fault.

"The line sucks" "the receivers aren't good enough" etc etc etc

HolmeZz 08-26-2009 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pneuma (Post 6003151)
Cassel looked shiny and nice while he was on Belichick’s lot, but so have many players. Belichick makes his squad into overachievers and then sells high, only to see his parts fail elsewhere. See: Deion Branch, David Givens and Ty Law.

What exactly were Ty Law and David Givens 'sold high' for again?

Deion Branch overachieved? He was a 2nd round pick who's never had 1,000 yards receiving and never more than 5 touchdowns in a season. He hasn't suffered from much of a drop off in production since going to Seattle, it's been more a case of not being able to stay on the field.

OnTheWarpath15 08-26-2009 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6004210)
All of those excuses were set for Croyle too...people want so badly to believe that the guy is the answer it's never his fault.

"The line sucks" "the receivers aren't good enough" etc etc etc

I like how all these excuses were presented as a reason to not draft a QB, and get a veteran guy.

Now the vet is here, and all the same excuses are still in play.

veist 08-26-2009 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6004025)
Sorry, but that's not an excuse.

Ben Roethlisberger won a ****ing Super Bowl behind a TERRIBLE offensive line last year.

And Cassel himself was successful last year getting sacked more than any other QB in the league.

And lets not forgot that the Cards line was not good either, heh. Didn't seem to keep Warner from lighting some D's up last year.

Mecca 08-26-2009 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6004216)
I like how all these excuses were presented as a reason to not draft a QB, and get a veteran guy.

Now the vet is here, and all the same excuses are still in play.

And they'll be in play for a long time, we're talking about a fan base that actually tried to justify that Brodie Croyle and Matt Ryan were similar prospects.

chiefzilla1501 08-26-2009 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6004216)
I like how all these excuses were presented as a reason to not draft a QB, and get a veteran guy.

Now the vet is here, and all the same excuses are still in play.

No, it just says that trying to build your entire offense around one player that isn't named Peyton Manning or Tom Brady is just plain nuts.

Cassel is a work-in-progress. And who knows if he ever reaches any potential. I'm just astounded that the Chiefs would bring in a guy like Cassel and not surround him with the tools to learn how to run an offense the right way. It enfuriates me, actually. It's one thing if the Chiefs gave him limited talent to work with. But they stripped him of their top "receiver" and they sat idly by as an offensive line they knew was horrendous didn't improve a bit.

The excuses won't be just from the fans. Pioli bought Cassel two years because if he's not successful in year 1, Pioli can blame it on lack of support players, even though he should have known that before we entered the 2009 season.

boogblaster 08-26-2009 07:53 PM

We needed a QB .. we got a 1 year proven one .. true he played on a very good team, but he still played well .. was it a bad move, time will tell .. still it wasn't the no.1 worst decision of the offseason ....

OnTheWarpath15 08-26-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6004235)
No, it just says that trying to build your entire offense around one player that isn't named Peyton Manning or Tom Brady is just plain nuts.

Cassel is a work-in-progress. And who knows if he ever reaches any potential. I'm just astounded that the Chiefs would bring in a guy like Cassel and not surround him with the tools to learn how to run an offense the right way. It enfuriates me, actually. It's one thing if the Chiefs gave him limited talent to work with. But they stripped him of their top "receiver" and they sat idly by as an offensive line they knew was horrendous didn't improve a bit.

The excuses won't be just from the fans. Pioli bought Cassel two years because if he's not successful in year 1, Pioli can blame it on lack of support players, even though he should have known that before we entered the 2009 season.

Look out, folks. 'Zilla is furious.

LMAO

Ignored the offense, setting Cassel up for failure, and trading Tyler Thigpen.

OH NOES!!!111!!!!!111!!one!!111eleventy!1

Mecca 08-26-2009 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by boogblaster (Post 6004239)
We needed a QB .. we got a 1 year proven one .. true he played on a very good team, but he still played well .. was it a bad move, time will tell .. still it wasn't the no.1 worst decision of the offseason ....

What's #1?

Bwana 08-26-2009 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6003174)

The dude looks like a candy nippled flit boy. The kind of gem that would ring your doorbell and when you answered the door, would start jerking off on your mailbox. I wouldn't put a hell of a lot of stock in what this strokestick writes, but that's just me.

Mecca 08-26-2009 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6004244)
Look out, folks. 'Zilla is furious.

LMAO

Ignored the offense, setting Cassel up for failure, and trading Tyler Thigpen.

OH NOES!!!111!!!!!111!!one!!111eleventy!1

HaHa, well I wouldn't have approached things the way the Chiefs did either, I'll say that much.

OnTheWarpath15 08-26-2009 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6004247)
What's #1?

Gotta be Denver trading away a franchise QB for a guy that only started out of necessity last year.

Mecca 08-26-2009 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6004256)
Gotta be Denver trading away a franchise QB for a guy that only started out of necessity last year.

That one is pretty bad...Delhomme is too but Cassel is right up there if you think he won't pan out.

DeezNutz 08-26-2009 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6004256)
Gotta be Denver trading away a franchise QB for a guy that only started out of necessity last year.

That's the type of move that would push me as close as possible to turning in my fan card until the current regime left town.

I would be dumbstruck.


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