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milkman 09-14-2009 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 6072224)
I hate to agree with you but I do. Haley is a classless jackass.

Come on Skip.

I get the stupid bitch wouldn't get it, she is after all, a stupid bitch.

DeezNutz 09-14-2009 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 6072172)
No, but there is still this human thing called respect that I think should transcend sports.

They hug in the huddle, FFS.

Skyy God 09-14-2009 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6072459)
Oh look.

Raider fan chimes in.

Is she a Raider fan? That would make so much sense.

memyselfI 09-14-2009 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 6072409)
If he's fair (as GoChiefs pointed out he was with Croyle) they'll respect him.

And more importantly, if they WIN, they'll respect him even more.

Maybe. But chances are they will just accept him vs. respect him. No one likes to see a teammate or coworker or student belittled because they know one day it could be them.

Again, fear and intimidation are a motivator only to a point.

DeezNutz 09-14-2009 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 6072535)
Maybe. But chances are they will just accept him vs. respect him. No one likes to see a teammate or coworker or student belittled because they know one day it could be them.

I don't think you understand the world of sports very well at all.

And your analogies are proof of this.

memyselfI 09-14-2009 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6072544)
I don't think you understand the world of sports very well at all.

And your analogies are proof of this.

I understand that athletes these days are prima donnas and that the type of personality/coaching style that Haley has does not compute with the mind set of those individuals. This ain't the sports world of 20 years ago.

Easy 6 09-14-2009 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 6072582)
I understand that athletes these days are prima donnas and that the type of personality/coaching style that Haley has does not compute with the mind set of those individuals. This ain't the sports world of 20 years ago.

If you were talking about an office manager, you'd be making sense.

Players that dont want to 'get' Haleys style will get 3 choices...coal mine, moonshine, take it down the line.

htismaqe 09-14-2009 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 6072535)
Maybe. But chances are they will just accept him vs. respect him. No one likes to see a teammate or coworker or student belittled because they know one day it could be them.

Again, fear and intimidation are a motivator only to a point.

Did you not see the example GoChiefs provided where he gave Brodie a pat on the back after the TD?

It's not like he's lashing out at anybody, any time, for no good reason.

But I guess you've got to find something new about your least favorite team to complain about.

memyselfI 09-14-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 6072670)
If you were talking about an office manager, you'd be making sense.

Players that dont want to 'get' Haleys style will get 3 choices...coal mine, moonshine, take it down the line.

I guess only time will tell. I'm pretty confident in my belief that his coaching style will win him more problems than points both on the board and in the locker room.

milkman 09-14-2009 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 6072777)
I guess only time will tell. I'm pretty confident in my belief that his coaching style will win him more problems than points both on the board and in the locker room.

I guess Tom Couglin's hardass approach failed the Giants a couple of years ago when they won the Super Bowl.

I guess BIll Cowher's hardass appproach won him more problems than games, and a SB, which is why he had to retire.

I guess Mike Tomlin's hardass approach had the same effect.

Oh, and of course Bill Bellicheck's hardass approach is totally loser.

JFC

WildTurkey 09-14-2009 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6073026)
I guess Tom Couglin's hardass approach failed the Giants a couple of years ago when they won the Super Bowl.

I guess BIll Cowher's hardass appproach won him more problems than games, and a SB, which is why he had to retire.

I guess Mike Tomlin's hardass approach had the same effect.

Oh, and of course Bill Bellicheck's hardass approach is totally loser.

JFC

Yeah don't forget Bill Parcells that guy sucked as a coach :shake:

booger 09-14-2009 09:23 PM

but it was ok for red ass gannon and Gruden. Somehow i guess that's different in her eyes.

memyselfI 09-14-2009 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by booger (Post 6073152)
but it was ok for red ass gannon and Gruden. Somehow i guess that's different in her eyes.

Actually I make this opinion with him in mind. Many of his players ended up hating him.

memyselfI 09-14-2009 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6073026)
I guess Tom Couglin's hardass approach failed the Giants a couple of years ago when they won the Super Bowl.

I guess BIll Cowher's hardass appproach won him more problems than games, and a SB, which is why he had to retire.

I guess Mike Tomlin's hardass approach had the same effect.

Oh, and of course Bill Bellicheck's hardass approach is totally loser.

JFC

I'm not saying all coaches can't win using this method. I am saying that it won't work with most and especially with this particular one in this situation. The team is too new, the management to new, the changes too fresh for a new rookie coach to be throwing around his weight and acting like that. Especially given the lack of veteran leadership on the team.

milkman 09-14-2009 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 6073338)
I'm not saying all coaches can't win using this method. I am saying that it won't work with most and especially with this particular one in this situation. The team is too new, the management to new, the changes too fresh for a new rookie coach to be throwing around his weight and acting like that. Especially given the lack of veteran leadership on the team.

Almost every single HC that has won a SB has a reputation as a demanding hardass.

From Vince Lombardi to Hank Stram to Chuck Noll to Bill Walsh to Jimmy Johnson to Bill Bellichick to Mike Tomlin.

The only "nice guy" coaches to win are Dick Vermeil and Tony Dungy.


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