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Cassel Is Failing Chiefs (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=216961)

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6206390)

Cassel is just wildly inaccurate down the field, he had the problem in NE and it's still with him. His other problem is when he hits his back foot on his drop if his first read isn't open his first instinct is to start moving. He never just drops back and progresses through his reads without running around even when he has a good pocket he does it.

He did that on the Bowe TD yesterday.
His first read wasn't open, he stood tall in the pocket, turned and fired a pass for #82...6 points.

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6207018)

He did that on the Bowe TD yesterday.
His first read wasn't open, he stood tall in the pocket, turned and fired a pass for #82...6 points.

He's made some nice throws but he has been madly inconsistent he does seem to do better when the offense is in a quick rhythm tho IMO ....

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 6207029)

He's made some nice throws but he has been madly inconsistent he does seem to do better when the offense is in a quick rhythm tho IMO ....

I'm not suggesting that he's a world-beater.
I said, myself, earlier today that he cost us 6 points on two separate wayward throws...

I don't know... I guess I'm just the kind of guy to give criticism AND credit where it's due.

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6207018)

He did that on the Bowe TD yesterday.
His first read wasn't open, he stood tall in the pocket, turned and fired a pass for #82...6 points.

Good point.

And since I've criticized the man a ton today: the throw to Long was just perfect. High-quality NFL throw and one that a guy like Thigpen never makes.

Too bad that Matt Cassel lays dormant most of the time.

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6207048)

same here.... rep... I'm just not ready to call him shit after 6 games

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6207049)

I see things like that and wonder if an offseason in the same offense with the same receivers won't develop more consistency.

Here's hopin'

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6207049)

Yep, the throw to Long was right on the money as well.
Several of his throws were today. But when you leave points on the board because you missed a wide open receiver fans forget the good ones. And I honestly can't say that I blame them.

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 6206783)

Jay Cutler threw 3 INT's today and the Bears got crushed by the Bungles....does this mean that Cutler is terrible too?

This Cassel hate is ridiculous. He had a bad game...move on. The whole team sucks.
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Agreed. :thumb:

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 6206799)

This..... he's played 6 games for probably the least talented team in NFL history... shit even the best QB's in the NFL need some help... anyone who claims it's all his fault is a ****ing moron

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 6206912)

Nobody knows that he is or he isn't he's played 6 games for this franchise with one of the worst rosters ever. I would like to see what he does on this team with some talent if we ever get any :rolleyes:

I agree with this too. It is unfair to have high expectations of Cassel or judge him with the lack of talent overall on this roster. Give it a year or two folks. It's really our only option at this point.

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 6206887)

The whole team played like dog shit..... I fail to see how this is some great indictment on Cassel... this team is terrible not an excuse just a fact, honestly I expected his struggling, no o-line, one good but inconsistent WR, and no running game not to mention a brand new offense a week before the season... anyone who expected him to thrive under those circumstances need their heads checked... is he the answer at QB? who knows but it's tough to judge either way based on the start of this season, If Pioli really wants him to be the guy he needs to put him in a situation where he can thrive and he is not even close to that right now

I agree with ya here. Now if the Chiefs have not made some serious improvments by this time next year then I'm going to be concerned. But anyone who expected the Chiefs to even be a halfway decent team this year was kidding themselves. It didn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6206916)

Actually I think a lot of people expect Cassel to play much better than he showed today.

This team could be 3-4 if Cassel has raised his level of play to match his bank account.

I don't know if the Chiefs would be 3-4 or not. Fact is no one really knows for sure. I do agree with you that there is plenty of room for improvement both from Cassel and from every other area of the the Chiefs football team. There's just not enough talent on this ball club yet plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6207054)

I see things like that and wonder if an offseason in the same offense with the same receivers won't develop more consistency.

Here's hopin'

They need to develop the offense around his strengths... he needs to be the identity of the offense.... and IMO he is at his best in a quick up tempo offense...

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 6206838)

yeah that didn't happen so get the **** over it..... I wanted them to draft a QB too but that didn't happen,I however don't use it as a reason to constantly bitch and piss and moan about every little thing Pioli, Haley and Cassel do... shit people bitch about the homers and the do no wrong attitude... I almost think the whole sandy vagina attitude toward every little thing that the new regime does is just as ridiculous

I was speaking in future-tense, you cheeky little monkey. And by the by, I believe I'll enjoy fandom on MY ****ing terms, thank you very much.
When a million fools rush to proclaim the Headmaster of this porta-potty a "genius", I'll be there to remind them of the error of their ways.
I'm consistent like that.

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 6207067)

They need to develop the offense around his strengths... he needs to be the identity of the offense.... and IMO he is at his best in a quick up tempo offense...

Like...like...THIGGY!

WOOT! ELEVENTY BILLION!!!1111!!!!!

Dear GM,

Field a ****ing football team, you cannoli-eating ****.

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 6207095)

no I never said spread..... The Pats have been quite good over the years running that style of offense even before Moss and Welker...

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 6207095)

Nobody is calling him a genious :) some would like to let things play out a little bit before he gets proclaimed one way or the other

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 6207105)

Nobody is calling him a genious :) some would like to let things play out a little bit before he gets proclaimed one way or the other

Exactly. I don't see why this is so hard for everyone to understand. I suppose the fact that for the past 3yrs. that's all the Chiefs have done is lose. I don't think it would matter much right now if somebody like Cowher was the Chiefs coach and they were 1-6. There would probably still be people crucifying the coaching and the front office.

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 6207105)

Nobody is calling him a genious :) some would like to let things play out a little bit before he gets proclaimed one way or the other

If he fields a sub-.500 next year, there's going to be trouble in River City big-time.

He better get his ass to work in this coming off season, and shine like the top of the Chrysler Building.

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 6207114)

If he fields a sub-.500 next year, there's going to be trouble in River City big-time.

He better get his ass to work in this coming off season, and shine like the top of the Chrysler Building.

I agree.... there is no excuse for this team to not be competitive next year...