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DaneMcCloud 11-01-2009 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6224935)
I bet he has factored into the intensity Dorsey has played with so far this year.

Remember Dorsey last year?

I thought it was a joke when they said he would be played at 3-4 de, he has plyed very well and is a big reason Hali is able to make plays.

What????????

Dorsey played well last year, despite what some dipshits around here thought of his play.

JFC. Are you mildly retarted?

Rausch 11-01-2009 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6224925)
Yep, it makes absolutely NO sense.

None. Zero. Zip. Nada.

And this new O-line coach sucks ass. Everyone on the O-line has regressed this year.

The whole offense looks worse.

The defense only plays 3 1/2 quarters on our GOOD weeks.

But we have the best K/P combo in TEH WHOLE LEAGUES!1!


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DaneMcCloud 11-01-2009 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by salame (Post 6224942)
So more of Tyson Jackson and less of Haley or the new scheme?

None of the above.

Dorsey's a talented dude in his own right.

BossChief 11-01-2009 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6224938)
You're full of shit.

Tyson Jackson was a mid to late first round projection until as OTWP58 noted earlier, Rick Gosselin put him in the 10-12 range.

And who do YOU know in the Green Bay organization that told you they wanted Jackson over Raji?

I said GB is the only team that I HAVENT heard as interested in taking him with their first.

Singletary said he had him pegged on may 6 on NFLN

I dont have a date for Cleveland, but they did shortly after MS did.

Rausch 11-01-2009 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by salame (Post 6224942)
So more of Tyson Jackson and less of Haley...

SOLD!

BossChief 11-01-2009 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6224947)
What????????

Dorsey played well last year, despite what some dipshits around here thought of his play.

JFC. Are you mildly retarted?

STOP THE PRESSES!!! YOU THINK DORSEY PLAYED WELL LAST YEAR???

Im at a loss for words.

BossChief 11-01-2009 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6224925)
Yep, it makes absolutely NO sense.

None. Zero. Zip. Nada.

And this new O-line coach sucks ass. Everyone on the O-line has regressed this year.

this

BossChief 11-01-2009 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6224917)
What?? You don't know what the **** you're talking about. Ohlshansky signed for a mere $4 million a year. The problem is that the CHIEFS didn't "entertain" the idea.



Again, you don't what you're talking about. The Chiefs defense SUCKS ASS. They're worse than last year in nearly EVERY statistical category and it's not going to get any better.

And while Dorsey has shown flashes, Magee has sucked, Washington's worthless and Jackson hasn't been anything special at all.

Ignoring playmakers for a "foundation" will NOT win a championship.

JFC.

you dont know that, for all we know Pioli called his agent and his agent said he has a short list of teams he was interested in playing for. If he had any kind of parameters for which teams he would consider signing with, Im sure the 2-14 division rival he has played twice a year was the last on the list. Be realistic here.

The defense has been bad for a decade because we never could stop the run. Am I the only one here that remembers that? Young linemen take time to learn the game in teh trenches. Almost none are ever good as a rookie. Remember Mario Williams? People around here would have been calling him a dumb pick after six games too.

Im not going to defend a single pick after TJ because they all were abortions except Succop

Rausch 11-01-2009 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6224964)
STOP THE PRESSES!!! YOU THINK DORSEY PLAYED WELL LAST YEAR???

Im at a loss for words.

DT's don't come out the gate and take over the world their rookie year like a DE can.

I believe Dorsey can become a great 3-4 DE but the problem is that you drafted him and paid him to be a Warren Sapp and then told him to go be Kimo Von Oelhoffen.

It's like signing Randy Moss for Randy Moss money and then asking him to play TE.

"Well, you're still catching passes, right?..."

Nein...

DaneMcCloud 11-01-2009 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6224964)
STOP THE PRESSES!!! YOU THINK DORSEY PLAYED WELL LAST YEAR???

Im at a loss for words.

Well, apparently, you know nothing about defensive line play.

Dorsey was playing out of position and had 46 tackles, one sack and one pass defended on an awful defense that had ZERO outside pressure.

He was also coming off of a serious leg injury.

BossChief 11-01-2009 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 6224993)
DT's don't come out the gate and take over the world their rookie year like a DE can.

I believe Dorsey can become a great 3-4 DE but the problem is that you drafted him and paid him to be a Warren Sapp and then told him to go be Kimo Von Oelhoffen.

It's like signing Randy Moss for Randy Moss money and then asking him to play TE.

"Well, you're still catching passes, right?..."

Nein...

'thats my point

yup

yup

BossChief 11-01-2009 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6224999)
Well, apparently, you know nothing about defensive line play.

Dorsey was playing out of position and had 46 tackles, one sack and one pass defended on an awful defense that had ZERO outside pressure.

He was also coming off of a serious leg injury.

I know he got pushed around regularly. If you didnt see that, you chose not to look...he played OK in the last two games, thats it. Dont trust defensive tackle stats, they are kept by the team and are very often falsified/exaggerated. NFLN has a show for top ten nfl myths and one of them (cant remember where it ranked) was the myth that tackle stats are accurate. They arent. If they were they would be figured into contracts.

If you cant tell already, I dont follow what other people think unless it makes more sense to me than what I know.

I drew my opinion of Dorsey off watching the games not looking at stats, He was completely owned in about half the games.

Dorsey was a rookie DT and played very much like one.

I understand very well he and every other defensive linemen we had was playing out of position as well. I had a thread on another board called flip flop where I pointed this out two weeks before Whitlock did.

milkman 11-01-2009 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6225008)
'thats my point

yup

yup

Some people move the goal posts.

You move the whole ****ing field.

milkman 11-01-2009 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6225024)
I know he got pushed around regularly. If you didnt see that, you chose not to look...he played OK in the last two games, thats it. Dont trust defensive tackle stats, they are kept by the team and are very often falsified/exaggerated. NFLN has a show for top ten nfl myths and one of them (cant remember where it ranked) was the myth that tackle stats are accurate. They arent. If they were they would be figured into contracts.

If you cant tell already, I dont follow what other people think unless it makes more sense to me than what I know.

I drew my opinion of Dorsey off watching the games not looking at stats, He was completely owned in about half the games.

Dorsey was a rookie DT and played very much like one.

I understand very well he and every other defensive linemen we had was playing out of position as well. I had a thread on another board called flip flop where I pointed this out two weeks before Whitlock did.

And we were talking about Dorsey playing the wrong spot from the first game of the season, and before, in the preseason.

What's your ****ing point?

DaFace 11-01-2009 02:48 PM

I need to set up a new usergroup for posters who haven't broken any rules, but are clearly dumbasses. Then make it so that a big red D is used in place of their avatar. It'd be like our own little scarlet letter.


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