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jAZ 12-30-2009 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 6392327)
Wow. WTH are the Tech administrators thinking? After reading that, it seems pretty obvious what was the problem.

They just wanted to get rid of him.
I am writing this letter on behalf of Mike Leach in regards to the Adam James situation. I was the inside receiver coach at Texas Tech when we made the decision the sign Adam James in January of 2007. Adam had no offers to play NCAA D1 football during and after his Senior year. After a conversation between Coach Leach and Adams father Craig, Coach Leach acquired a brief highlight tape of Adam and made the decision to take him as a scholarship student athlete. I was opposed to doing so in belief he was not a D1 football player. Coach Leach overrode my opinion and Adam became a Red Raider. During the rest of my time at Texas Tech I was Adams position coach where I always remained critical of Adams ability to play at this level due to being lazy in not only the classroom but also in the off season and during practice. Coach Leach was the one who kept saying he believed Adam would eventually contribute. Adams teammates believed he was selfish and were constantly getting onto him for lack of effort as they sensed entitlement on his part due to his father being a very good football player. Adam eventually ended up playing a little after I left due to his body type being able to do some TE sets which consists of around 5-10 plays a game. Adam should be thankful for the opportunity to play at Texas Tech and for Mike Leach, who gave him the opportunity. In my opinion playing 5-10 plays a game in an outstanding offense is more than he would get at any other school in NCAA D1 football.

Dana Holgorsen
OC & QB's
University of Houston

vailpass 12-30-2009 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6392369)
You know what the moral of this story is?

If you're going to **** with a kid, it probably shouldn't be the guys kid who works for ESPN.

There's more truth than poetry to that one for sure.

Hootie 12-30-2009 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6392345)
You're ****ing dumbass. I played Kansas 6A football, dipshit.



No wonder you're so ****ed up then.



I bet that coach was the toast of the town, right?

JFC.



More proof that you're an ignorant moron.

What? Congratulations? I don't get it...

The JV coach I referenced was our Varsity baseball coach for a year and he scared the shit out of us...scared the shit out of us so much we'd run 5 miles every morning and work out like crazy so we'd be in tip/top shape for when baseball season started...

If we missed a sign during the season...or did something stupid on the field...we'd come in at 6 AM for a "good baseball" the next morning...

The dude was insane...but he used to be the hitting coach at Illinois and now he has his own gig at a JUCO...good coach, but he had some insane tactics and we were just in high school.

You're the type of pussy ass bitch who thinks two 13 year olds who get into a fight at school deserve to be arrested and spend the rest of the day in jail.

The PUSSIFICATION of Dane's America continues.

Adam James is a little bitch, plain and simple, and it's quite clear his daddy is the only reason Mike Leach isn't coaching at TT anymore...and lets be honest...he's going to get a HUGE buyout out of this...guaranteed.

RippedmyFlesh 12-30-2009 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 6392298)
From what I've read (emails from players and coaches) Adam James is a whining primadona. My guess is that Leach had enough of what he thought was AJ's efforts to get special treatment, so rather than let him leave to go sit down and relax while the rest of the team was standing and praticing, he had did what was necessary to respond to the complain (get him out of the sun) but told him to stand in the room like all of his teammates were doing through the rest of practice.

That seems pretty likely and not very unreasonable. Unless there was a medical reason for him to not even be out there in the first place. Which it seems obviously to be untrue.

I am not sticking up for james but I have always figured the best punishment is bench time during games.
To me what leach did was stupid but not overly harsh.
I had seen some of my jr high not high school JR high coaches do worse but that was years ago. My high school coach denied us water breaks if we ****ed up which is way worse than this but that was years ago.
In 2009 you cant do this and think you won't get called on it. **** there's people here who whine cause haley swears at pros.

vailpass 12-30-2009 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 6392370)
They just wanted to get rid of him.
I am writing this letter on behalf of Mike Leach in regards to the Adam James situation. I was the inside receiver coach at Texas Tech when we made the decision the sign Adam James in January of 2007. Adam had no offers to play NCAA D1 football during and after his Senior year. After a conversation between Coach Leach and Adams father Craig, Coach Leach acquired a brief highlight tape of Adam and made the decision to take him as a scholarship student athlete. I was opposed to doing so in belief he was not a D1 football player. Coach Leach overrode my opinion and Adam became a Red Raider. During the rest of my time at Texas Tech I was Adams position coach where I always remained critical of Adams ability to play at this level due to being lazy in not only the classroom but also in the off season and during practice. Coach Leach was the one who kept saying he believed Adam would eventually contribute. Adams teammates believed he was selfish and were constantly getting onto him for lack of effort as they sensed entitlement on his part due to his father being a very good football player. Adam eventually ended up playing a little after I left due to his body type being able to do some TE sets which consists of around 5-10 plays a game. Adam should be thankful for the opportunity to play at Texas Tech and for Mike Leach, who gave him the opportunity. In my opinion playing 5-10 plays a game in an outstanding offense is more than he would get at any other school in NCAA D1 football.

Dana Holgorsen
OC & QB's
University of Houston


A member of the coaching fraternity who very well might get his next job from Leach writes a letter of support? A good defense attorney would need about 20 seconds to discredit this one.

beer bacon 12-30-2009 03:08 PM

Yeah, making kids stay for practice is not possible in 2009.

Hootie 12-30-2009 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6392369)
You know what the moral of this story is?

If you're going to **** with a kid, it probably shouldn't be the guys kid who works for ESPN.

This, this and THIS.

Kudos to Mike Leach for not giving a **** and playing favorites, though.

If he's going to act like a 3 year old, he can get a "timeout" like a 3 year old.

Who cares if it was for three hours? He deserved it...and like tk13 said...I guarantee you other collegiate athletes get worse punishments on a practice to practice basis at any other major college university...

I'd say forcing one to run until they vomit is TEN times worse than making someone go stand in a dark room.

beer bacon 12-30-2009 03:09 PM

The timeout was the length of practice. Poor guy.

Hootie 12-30-2009 03:09 PM

Dane thinks Haley should be fired for flipping off a fan.

He just thinks everyone should get fired for anything.

He's a drama queen.

Mecca 12-30-2009 03:09 PM

The problem for Leach isn't just that it's Craig James son, it's that list has a big list of reeruned things he's said, most people aren't going to give him the benefit anymore.

DaneMcCloud 12-30-2009 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6392377)
What? Congratulations? I don't get it...

The JV coach I referenced was our Varsity baseball coach for a year and he scared the shit out of us...scared the shit out of us so much we'd run 5 miles every morning and work out like crazy so we'd be in tip/top shape for when baseball season started...

If we missed a sign during the season...or did something stupid on the field...we'd come in at 6 AM for a "good baseball" the next morning...

The dude was insane...but he used to be the hitting coach at Illinois and now he has his own gig at a JUCO...good coach, but he had some insane tactics and we were just in high school.

You're the type of pussy ass bitch who thinks two 13 year olds who get into a fight at school deserve to be arrested and spend the rest of the day in jail.

The PUSSIFICATION of Dane's America continues.

Adam James is a little bitch, plain and simple, and it's quite clear his daddy is the only reason Mike Leach isn't coaching at TT anymore...and lets be honest...he's going to get a HUGE buyout out of this...guaranteed.

**** off, Rapist

stumppy 12-30-2009 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6392323)
I'm pretty ****ing sure if this guy wanted to sit, he could have sat...or if he wanted to leave, he could have left...


Of course he could have. But at what cost ? Kicked off the team and lost his schorlarship ? Hmmm, you think maybe that might have something to do with him staying put ?

jAZ 12-30-2009 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6392359)
Leach should have suspended him or booted him off the team.

Whatever the case, Leach acted improperly.

I don't have a problem with you not agreeing with the technique he used and maybe even seeing him as being somewhat petty or juvinilie on his part. But to me if it played out as I have described, it's not remotely worthy of being suspended or fired. It's far more likely that the kid was a punk, who's father is both father (understandable) but likely kind of a punk himself. And who because of his high profile in the media, was able to make just enough news out of the story as to give TT the excuse that they have wanted for months now, to fire him "with cause".

My guess is that Leach walks away getting paid the full $1.6 M for being fired without cause.

DaneMcCloud 12-30-2009 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6392393)
Dane thinks Haley should be fired for flipping off a fan.

He just thinks everyone should get fired for anything.

He's a drama queen.

I absolutely cannot wait for the day that your whiny little bitch ass has to compete in the real world.

I doubt you'll make it to age 30 without mommy and daddy's help.

Scumbag.

Hootie 12-30-2009 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 6392392)
The timeout was the length of practice. Poor guy.

I watched our 8th grade basketball coach choke two of my teammates, rather aggressively...the latter one when we were in state basketball...so bad he walked out of the lockerroom and his son took over...there was a bit of controversy and the dad of the kid who got choked wasn't thrilled...but he kept his job the next year...

and then probably 5 years later he was the freshmen coach at the high school and the stat boy kept getting on his nerves during a varsity game and after the game he was caught choking him in front of hundreds of fans at that was his end...

But hilarious nonetheless ROFL


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