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WildTurkey 02-03-2010 01:32 AM

I just hope that Berry somehow falls to us and we don't have to worry about this shit

Saccopoo 02-03-2010 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6501019)
how many first round olinemen do those teams have, combined?

Why?

Because those two teams were mentioned as a response the asshats assertion that defense wins championships.

However, I can go you one better - how many first round draft picks do either of these teams have at linebacker? At safety?

Mecca 02-03-2010 01:49 AM

Okung is nothing like Ferguson, if you want to compare a player to Ferguson this year it's Charles Brown.

Brown is not nearly as ready or experienced as Ferguson was but they are/were both light coming out, athletic and have no other position than LT because they aren't dominant power blockers.

Also after losing weight Albert would not remotely make for a good guard unless you like watching guards get manhandled by guys that are now 50lbs heavier than him.

Saccopoo 02-03-2010 01:51 AM

Oh, by the way, these teams (Saints and Colts) have a combined one player on the offensive line that was taken in the first round of the NFL draft.

And just to save you from digging, neither team has a linebacker or safety that was taken in the first round.

So, 1 - 0.

Mecca 02-03-2010 01:51 AM

Jammal Brown was the only one and he's on IR should you really be counting him he hasn't played a single snap this year?

And technically Vilma was a 1st rounder just not by that team.

Saccopoo 02-03-2010 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6501034)
Also after losing weight Albert would not remotely make for a good guard unless you like watching guards get manhandled by guys that are now 50lbs heavier than him.

Probably just as painful as watching him get overpowered by DE's or out quicked by OLB's in his current state.

Saccopoo 02-03-2010 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6501037)
Jammal Brown was the only one and he's on IR should you really be counting him he hasn't played a single snap this year?

And technically Vilma was a 1st rounder just not by that team.

So it's a wash...

Mecca 02-03-2010 01:53 AM

Albert should get another year, it's pretty hard to rail a guy who has all the talent that has had 2 different coaching staffs, 2 different schemes and a coach that thought making him lose weight was important all while switching positions in a 2 year span.

Mecca 02-03-2010 01:54 AM

I can sit here and start listing off how many really good teams have built with playmakers early and linemen mid to late.

The Colts are a perfect example of a team that valued playmakers early in the draft.

Saccopoo 02-03-2010 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6501043)
I can sit here and start listing off how many really good teams have built with playmakers early and linemen mid to late.

The Colts are a perfect example of a team that valued playmakers early in the draft.

Dez Bryant it is.

Mecca 02-03-2010 01:59 AM

And I'm not really a proponent of using a top 5 pick on Rolando McClain but it's something Pioli would do.

RustShack 02-03-2010 02:01 AM

I'm sorry jackass, but the Chiefs made the commitment of going to the 3-4 and this team is going to be build around the defense. Unless they think Okung can play NT he won't be the pick. This team is full of Parcells disciples, Parcells who built his team around the defense. Pioli's Super Bowl runs with the Patriots were because of their great defense. Todd Haley grew up around the Steelers, another defensive team. He went on to coach with the Bear and Cowboys, defensive teams. He was hired by Wisinhunt from the Cardinals, from the defensive Steelers. Weis has always been apart of teams where his offense managed the game and their defense won games. Your a ****ing idiot if you think our entire staff and front office is going to go against their roots.

RustShack 02-03-2010 02:03 AM

The Colts and Saints both have a great safety. It doesn't matter where they were drafted, because they are up there. I will take Saunders or Sharper over John Tait.

Mecca 02-03-2010 02:05 AM

So you're saying the Chiefs are going to take Dan Williams?

RustShack 02-03-2010 02:08 AM

Whats even more funny though, the three highest picks Pioli has ever had.. #2 overall went to a Safety when they were with the Browns, #6 went to a DE(DT at the time), and #10 went to a LB. Oh and how can I forget, last years #3 went to a DE. I wonder if its a coincidence? I wonder if he will continue to follow his patterns of using the majority of the high round picks on defense or if he will completely change his ways because Sacapoo is an idiot and doesn't know what hes talking about?

Hmmm now thats a mystery.


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