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Basileus777 02-25-2010 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6559334)
No Houston won.
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That remains to be seen. Kevin Martin is still an injury prone 2nd/3rd tier guard that is on a bad contract.

chiefzilla1501 02-25-2010 08:09 PM
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The Cavs performance since the trade is showing why the Jamison deal has its problems. Cleveland's defense has been downright terrible lately, and a large part of it is the fact that a Shaq/Jamison frontcourt is terrible on the defensive end. Combine that with an undersized backcourt and it becomes a legitimate question of whether Jamison is really making them a better team. He's taking minutes from Varejao at the 4, who happens to be Cleveland's only quality defender in the frontcourt.
I think losing Z hurt them quite a bit too, but they'll get him back. That's a lot of minutes to lose for a center, especially when your starter is past his prime. They'll get him back, probably--should be interesting to see how that goes.

Mecca 02-25-2010 08:10 PM
I think Dallas trade is the one that improved their team the most in relation to what everyone else did.

Caron Butler is better than Howard is and they got Heywood and Stevenson on top of that.

Basileus777 02-25-2010 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6559346)
I think losing Z hurt them quite a bit too, but they'll get him back. That's a lot of minutes to lose for a center, especially when your starter is past his prime. They'll get him back, probably--should be interesting to see how that goes.
Losing Z hurts, but he only plays 15-20 minutes most games and isn't a great defender. But getting him back will be important because it will let them give more minutes to Varejao at the 4 instead of Hickson.

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I think Dallas trade is the one that improved their team the most in relation to what everyone else did.

Caron Butler is better than Howard is and they got Heywood and Stevenson on top of that.
I don't think there is any doubt, especially with Dampier getting hurt. Haywood has had a huge impact on their defense, Butler is an upgrade over Howard, and even Stevenson has played some good defense.

Titty Meat 02-25-2010 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 6559338)
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That remains to be seen. Kevin Martin is still an injury prone 2nd/3rd tier guard that is on a bad contract.
Martin is an underrated player and they swaped ppicks with the Knicks while not giving up much.


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