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Hootie 04-27-2010 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6718808)
So the Jets, Lions and Rams have franchise QB's, and the Ravens and Bucs don't.

Interesting logic.

no...

The Jets, Lions and Rams have a lot of $$$$ invested in young QB's...they are paid like franchise ****ing QB's...you don't bring in competition for those guys...

Freeman and Flacco are not paid like franchise QB's...they aren't even paid like starting QB's...

you see the difference yet?

OnTheWarpath15 04-27-2010 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6718807)
God that hurts just to read. Tell me you're not arguing that they can't be franchise guys because they don't get paid enough...

You obviously haven't been reading his posts the past few days.

He's on a bender of stupidity that belongs in the HOC.

Pioli Zombie 04-27-2010 12:24 PM

Oh Mother of our most gracious Holy Saints preserving us from on high with St Peter,Paul, and Virgin Mary on the Right side of the Heavenly Father will you stop it with the Clausen crap already??????

Hootie 04-27-2010 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6718811)
The Packers took Aaron Rodgers in 2005 because Brett Favre was pulling his usual retire/don't retire bullshit. They had no one to back him up and Rodgers happened to fall to them. But since 24 other teams passed on him....he's not a Franchise QB....right?

I made a bet with someone on this website Aaron Rodgers breakout year two years ago that he would post a 90+ QB rating...

I knew he was going to be awesome.

Hootie 04-27-2010 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6718820)
You obviously haven't been reading his posts the past few days.

He's on a bender of stupidity that belongs in the HOC.

as evidence of me being right this entire thread and you calling Freeman and Flacco franchise QB's?

Right.

Amnorix 04-27-2010 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 6718805)
You're telling me you would have been disappointed if the Patriots took Clausen around pick #40?

Isn't that a similar scenario to what the Packers did in 2005?

The Patriots had the picks to draft, develop, and cheaply pay a QB that who these guys are talking about as a franchise level QB...

you would have been disappointed with that pick?

First, I learned LONG ago not to be disappointed with Belichick draft picks. I'm 100% convinced that he puts in as much or more effort than anyone, that he has a strategy and plan that is sound, and that he is more qualified than nearly anyone else in the NFL to be running a team. Further, if having Belichick the coach (who is awesome) means being forced to have Belichick the GM (who may only be average, but certainly isn't worse than average), then I'm glad to live with it. In BB I trust.

All that said, picking Clausen would have confused me. Brady's contract runs out after 2010, but he's not going anywhere, and likely has about five productive years left. We also have 2 1sts and 2 2nds next year which could be use on QBs if they think the value is there.

They obviously liked the value at other positions for their picks this year, which I'm fine with.

Equally obvious, if BB **KNEW** that Clausen was the second coming of Tom Brady, then he'd have drafted him, kept him on the bench for a year or two, and then unceremoniously axed Brady and gone with the younger guy. Belichick is nothing if not ruthless (another thing to love in an NFL coach, unfortunately), and all else being equal, you go with the 25 year old over the 35 year old.

Sanka 04-27-2010 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 6718790)
Other than Aaron Rodgers...name a late 1st round pick that has gone to a Pro Bowl in the last 10 years.

Drew Brees, I know he was takin in the 2nd round, but he was taken 32nd overall, which in this years draft would of been A LATE 1ST ROUND PICK!

OnTheWarpath15 04-27-2010 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 6718821)
Oh Mother of our most gracious Holy Saints preserving us from on high with St Peter,Paul, and Virgin Mary on the Right side of the Heavenly Father will you stop it with the Clausen crap already??????

Let him go, man. We're enjoying it.

It's like watching a cat chase a fake mouse tied to his tail.

Tribal Warfare 04-27-2010 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 6718801)
Yeah, that's like rule #1 of the "Patriots' Way" (whatever that is). If Pioli didn't learn to ignore ego in making personnel decisions, then he learned nothing.

Belichick cuts bait with draft picks or FA's he brought in as fast or faster than anybody.


I didn't want this ego thing to be true about Pioli, but he is dead set on either living on Cassel's success or falling because of his failure as a QB. That's the reason why I'm ticked you'd think he would have a contingency option just in case the 1st string QB fails to perform and lead the offense.

Amnorix 04-27-2010 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 6718819)
Freeman and Flacco are not paid like franchise QB's...they aren't even paid like starting QB's...

you see the difference yet?


Flacco is a second year player who had a very nice season leading a team to a playoff win on the road (mostly run game, obviously), and posted a 88 rating. You think that they should bring in competition for him? That's absurd.

And WTF does his salary have to do with anything? You think they'd just rip up his contract three years before it expires if they think he's really good? Who does that? (hint: nobody)

Amnorix 04-27-2010 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 6718836)
I didn't want this ego thing to be true about Pioli, but he is dead set on either living on Cassel's success or falling because of his failure as a QB. That's the reason why I'm ticked you'd think he would have a contingency option just in case the 1st string QB fails to perform and lead the offense.

Doesn't he have an opt-out clause after 2010 is over? Doesn't that PROVE that he's willing to cut bait on him and wasn't willing to go "all in"?

Hootie 04-27-2010 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6718835)
Let him go, man. We're enjoying it.

It's like watching a cat chase a fake mouse tied to his tail.

hey...

either way...

at least I haven't suffered from little man's syndrome my whole life...

so I got that going for me

OnTheWarpath15 04-27-2010 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 6718827)
as evidence of me being right this entire thread and you calling Freeman and Flacco franchise QB's?

Right.

See: DSM-IV - Denial, Distortion, Projection.

OnTheWarpath15 04-27-2010 12:33 PM

Welp, there's the Projection. Right on queue.

Tribal Warfare 04-27-2010 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 6718841)
Doesn't he have an opt-out clause after 2010 is over? Doesn't that PROVE that he's willing to cut bait on him and wasn't willing to go "all in"?

Pioli sacrificed a 2nd round pick on a player that was a"Pioli pick" which is from Kiper not me, and ignored Weis's opinion who was the former OC of the Patriots who helped Brady to what he is. That screams ego to the worst degree when Pioli makes a unilateral decision(pulls rank, executive decision) like that.


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