which is why it's not "technically" a 2 QB league...

you only HAVE to start 1 QB...the other being an OP (QB, RB, WR, TE)

these are the best, most competitive, most strategic, LEAST lottery fantasy football leagues out there...and everyone knows FFL requires a lot of luck

but hey...if you guys like your luck factor leagues, then so be it

just trying to show you a little REAL FFL

I use that for one league...

I have a hard time doing that league every year because of the cost for the service...

ESPN is now FULLY customizable (JUST LIKE myfantasyleague.com) and you don't have to pay for the service

hey that's fine but in our FLB league I was the one trying to CALM DOWN the drama because of a few owners throwing a shit fit from this site

but you're right...

I'm just a huge whiner...

I'm just trying to point out what league is the most competitive, most fun, and most bang for your buck...

I'm always interested in $100+ FFL leagues...but I'm only going to sign up if it's the RIGHT league...

1 QB leagues are never the RIGHT league...it totally devalues an entire position...and an important position at that.

I don't think this is true...

I don't think you're adding in the 1 PPR, the 1 point per 5 carries...or the 8 points for a WR TD...or the bonus points...

I would check but our league manager hasn't re-upped our league from last year so I can't get the engine going...

I might have to devalue QB's a little bit by throwing out the 1 point per 10 completions...

but I'm almost CERTAIN you are wrong in this regard

just did a quick check on that theory...

Rivers: 374 points
Andre Johnson: 391 points

so you're off...

every position is weighted equally...

and of course Brees and Chris Johnson are going to be ahead of the field...

and of course you're going to WANT to start 2 QB's...

but you don't have to...and in all honesty...if the NFL returned to a system where the majority of the teams relied on 1 featured RB...this would be a RB league every bit as much of a QB league...

I'll go tally up Ray Rice's points real quick with this system.

Ray Rice scored 420 points using my scoring format...

For what its worth, I like 1 QB leagues. Have participated in 2 QB leagues, didnt like it, and won't participate in one with 2 QB's again.

Drew Brees approx. 456

(P.S. I tweaked the QB yards from 25 to 30...I forgot that's what we did last year)

why?

because you didn't fare well?

because you didn't understand how to play it?

there are 32 starting QB's in the NFL...

there will be 10 or 12 teams...

In 1 QB leagues...that means a lot of teams can draft 1 QB and stream their byes with SEVERAL quality QB's on the waiver wire...

that's a watered down, lack of skill league

so if that's what you like, then I guess that's what you like

and it's not technically a "2 QB" league...it's a flex position with the ability to use a 2nd QB as a flex player...

and the way I've scored the league...QB's/RB's/WR's and some TE's are built as equals...

the only reason people prefer to use QB's in the OP is because QB's are almost always consistent.

1 QB Traditional Leagues top 25 average picks: 13 RBs; 8 WRs; 4 QBs

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36 RB's go before the 10th QB...

that's just so ridiculous and LOTTERY FFL...

that's all it is

who's going to get luckiest?

why don't we think outside the box and compete in a REAL league.

Shonn Greene, Ryan Grant and Rashard Mendenhall, to name a few, get drafted before PEYTON MANNING and TOM BRADY...

that's just a dumb, dumb, dumb, SUPER FLAWED league format

now I realize I'm SO HARD TO AGREE WITH because I make it that way...

so just read the content of my last 15 posts...

if you take a deep breath and REALLY think about it...you'll realize what I realized about 4 years ago...

Traditional, 1 QB leagues are severely flawed and watered down...and it turns into lottery FFL...

I go as far as to illegal rosters...

as in...

You must have 4 QBs/ 5 RBs/ 6 WRs/ 2 TEs / 2 Ks and 2 DEFs at all times

We need a commissioner to post the rules 1st. Then we can decide to join.

OK, here's what I set up. We can tweak things if we come to a consensus on anything. I'm not going to make this into some kind of drama though, so if you don't want in the league, that's no sweat at all.

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