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beer bacon 09-09-2010 09:07 PM

I don't know if Gabbert is overrated. Most MU fans know he has weaknesses, and the drafting sites don't seem to think he is a sure-fire 1st rounder in the next draft. Blaine has all the physical tools of the ideal NFL QB. In some of the drafts we have had in recent years he would probably end up an early 1st rounder, but in this upcoming draft he could drop quite a bit. Some years there just aren't many QBs that have the physical abilities NFL GMs want combined with great college careers. Locker will probably never do much at Washington, but he seems like a surefire number one or at least top three pick.

My hope is Gabbert stays at MU for a while and works on his weaknesses like pocket awareness.

RustShack 09-09-2010 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6990343)
This is completely uninformed bullshit.

LOL

Did you not watch the game?

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-09-2010 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 6990305)
There's never been a Big XII QB who was a good NFL QB. Kordell Stewart is the best one. Yuck

Troy Aikman started at Oklahoma, albeit for a year before transferring.
Bobby Layne played QB at Texas.

Granted, they were SWAC guys, but Kordell was a Big 8 guy.

Saul Good 09-09-2010 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6990343)
This is completely uninformed bullshit.

Not all of it. Gabbert ran into pressure several times when he had a nice pocket. It drove me absolutely nuts.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-09-2010 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6990352)
LOL

Did you not watch the game?

I watched the game, yes. Go back to the game thread. I was commenting in it.

RustShack 09-09-2010 09:14 PM

I didn't see him step up once. All he wanted to do is run out with or without pressure. Even when he didn't run you could tell he wanted to by what he did with his feet most of the time. I don't know if hes like that every game or not... but he sure as hell was against Illinois.. or he could just have terrible footwork... which I'm not saying.. but if your trying to say he wasn't trying to run out then he must.

Saul Good 09-09-2010 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6990376)
Troy Aikman started at Oklahoma, albeit for a year before transferring.
Bobby Layne played QB at Texas.

Granted, they were SWAC guys, but Kordell was a Big 8 guy.

I believe Stewart's Senior year was the first year of the Big XII.

RustShack 09-09-2010 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6990381)
I watched the game, yes. Go back to the game thread. I was commenting in it.

I'm not going to argue about this, because just the way your talking I'm just going to assume your a Mizzou fan and that you have been talking up Gabbert as a NFL prospect so your going to be all stupid about it. Honestly though, you are the one and only person I have encountered so far who is denying that he was playing like that last week.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-09-2010 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 6990392)
I believe Stewart's Senior year was the first year of the Big XII.

Incorrect. His final year was 1994. The Big XII's first year was 1996.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-09-2010 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6990398)
I'm not going to argue about this, because just the way your talking I'm just going to assume your a Mizzou fan and that you have been talking up Gabbert as a NFL prospect so your going to be all stupid about it. Honestly though, you are the one and only person I have encountered so far who is denying that he was playing like that last week.

He struggled in the first half, but he played demonstrably better in the second half. He stayed in the pocket, save for one play where he had about 12 seconds in the pocket. He didn't play nearly as well as he did against Illinois last year, but that's not to say he played poorly. He had no running game, and a lot of the screens they ran early in the game were very poorly designed.

Saul Good 09-09-2010 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6990400)
Incorrect. His final year was 1994. The Big XII's first year was 1996.

Technically, the Big XII was formed in February 1994, but you are correct. They didn't actually play under the Big XII until 1996.

Either way, Kordell Stewart is the best QB that you can even loosely tie to the Big XII. If you take him out of the mix, and I guess you should, it's Vince Young.

beer bacon 09-09-2010 09:20 PM

Chase Daniel - Future best NFL QB out of the Big 12.

RustShack 09-09-2010 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6990412)
He struggled in the first half, but he played demonstrably better in the second half. He stayed in the pocket, save for one play where he had about 12 seconds in the pocket. He didn't play nearly as well as he did against Illinois last year, but that's not to say he played poorly. He had no running game, and a lot of the screens they ran early in the game were very poorly designed.

Alright I can believe this. I watched the full first half, and was off and on during the second half.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-09-2010 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 6990413)
Technically, the Big XII was formed in February 1994, but you are correct. They didn't actually play under the Big XII until 1996.

Either way, Kordell Stewart is the best QB that you can even loosely tie to the Big XII. If you take him out of the mix, and I guess you should, it's Vince Young.

Good God, you were wrong. Just admit it and stop trying to spin. This isn't DC. He never played a Big XII game, he missed it by two years.

beer bacon 09-09-2010 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6990420)
Alright I can believe this. I watched the full first half, and was off and on during the second half.

The entire team looked better in the second half. I was there at the EJ Dome. I was catatonic at half time, then ecstatic once the game was over.


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