I don't get this stupid logic. I really don't.

There's not a poster on this board that would disagree that in the 4-3 we've had for years, a DE would be worth a Top 5, and a DT would be worth a Top 5.

But now we move to a scheme where we actually REDUCE the number of hands-in-the-dirt lineman we have lining up, and all of a sudden none of the positions are worth a Top 5 anymore.

It defies logic.

My view is that he was worth the 5 overall for another team, but he was not worth the 5 overall for us, not with Berry on the board.

(I don't think players just have an arbitrary universal ranking...)

Magee was just a terrible fit for this scheme. He makes more sense in a 4-3 than he does in a 3-4.

I have to chalk my enthusiasm for him up to the fact that I didn't properly understand the 3-4 yet. I think Magee has a dynamite first step and could be a good 3-tech penetrator, but the skills he did have didn't really match up to our defense that much.

I had McCluster with something like a mid-third grade. Spiller was elite talent.

1. His collegiate production was special.
2. He's bigger and can be more physical than McCluster. McCluster is a tough kid but it's hard to imagine he won't miss games every single year because he got unlucky and someone hit him hard.
3. Putting Spiller and Charles on the same field at the same time and you don't even need a third receiver to keep the defense honest.
4. His reception abilities are almost unequalled in the NFL amongst running backs.
5. Spiller's size and versatility allows him to have usefulness in the red zone. McCluster is only really useful between the 20's.

You're kind of dumb if you can't look at the draft and see that 3-4 DEs aren't top 5 picks.

Pass rushers are worth top 5 picks all day long.

A pass rusher, Tyson Jackson is not.

LDEs in a 4-3 aren't worth top 5 picks either, unless they have 15-20 sack potential while also stopping the run.

Have a good quarterback
protect the quarterback
get to opposing quarterbacks
stop the run
everything else

in that order and you will win lots and lots of games

And yet I've provided reasons as to why I think that's demonstrably untrue, but you just keep repeating that conclusion as if there was anything to back it up.

Yeah I can't see a 3-4 DE do anything to help with any of those items.

Before Tyson Jackson, who was the last top 5 3-4 DE? Nothing to back it up, LOL.

You still don't understand this defense.

This is not ending well for you, no matter how you think its going.

Do you think Arizona's Dockett would warrant a Top 5 pick if we knew then what we know now?

No. Stop dodging the question.

I'm not particularly concerned with how it's going. I'm just looking to kill time.

But thanks for the substantial response. Gives me tonnnnnnnns to go on.

k

I take it you just completely missed Super Bowl XLIII.

LOL, it was Arizona's awesome D that got them there!!!111one