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stevieray 10-29-2010 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7127477)
We're talking about a guy with questionable arm strength,

:rolleyes:

the flea flicker for a TD was 65 yards..

Reerun_KC 10-29-2010 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 7127530)
:rolleyes:

the flea flicker for a TD was a 65 yards..

But Bowe had to turn around and wait for it... Almost threw it out of the endzone, it if wasnt for an amazing catch by Bowe...

Just Passin' By 10-29-2010 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7127527)
ROFL

That's incredibly stupid.

Mostly because, well, I'm real sure Cassel's completion percentage is actually gonna go DOWN if he throws more, and throws more down the field.

Duh?

You might want to go back and re-read the post you were responding to. You're talking specifically about downfield passes and saying that there's not enough of them to evaluate TD/INT percentage. Meanwhile, you're trying to claim that there are enough to evaluate the completion percentage of those same downfield passes. Either the number is enough to analyze, or it's not.

milkman 10-29-2010 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 7127530)
:rolleyes:

the flea flicker for a TD was 65 yards..

And it was a rainbow.

Sandolf 10-29-2010 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7127513)
Good grief. ROFL

Cassel - 41.5 4/2
Brees - 41.4 4/5

stevieray 10-29-2010 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7127535)
And it was a rainbow.

:shake:

ya....becuase 65 yard throws are on a rope. great rebuttal.

swear, dude, you're gonna piss on this shit everyday of the season, you're getting too bitter to read..

Hammock Parties 10-29-2010 12:10 PM

Arm strength is not defined by how far you can throw the ball anyway.

Hammock Parties 10-29-2010 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 7127533)
You might want to go back and re-read the post you were responding to. You're talking specifically about downfield passes and saying that there's not enough of them to evaluate TD/INT percentage. Meanwhile, you're trying to claim that there are enough to evaluate the completion percentage of those same downfield passes. Either the number is enough to analyze, or it's not.

You're a buffoon. This isn't hard.

Try to keep up now:

Fewer throws down the field = less risk = fewer interceptions.

Capiche?

Just Passin' By 10-29-2010 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7127552)
You're a buffoon. This isn't hard.

Try to keep up now:

Fewer throws down the field = less risk = fewer interceptions.

Capiche?

If it's not hard, you should have been able to figure it out by now.

Fewer throws down the field = fewer touchdowns on throws down the field as well as fewer INTs down the field. Either you have enough to analyze, or you don't. If he's thrown enough of the passes for the completion percentage to be meaningful, he's thrown enough passes for the TD/INT ratio to be meaningful, as well. You are trying to bag on him for the completion percentage while ignoring the TD/INT ratio from the same sample size.

Hammock Parties 10-29-2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 7127565)
If he's thrown enough of the passes for the completion percentage to be meaningful, he's thrown enough passes for the TD/INT ratio to be meaningful, as well.

No, that's just ****ing stupid.

You're comparing apples to oranges.

Anyway, it's ****ing irrelevant to the conversation. Give him credit or not, I don't care. The fact remains his downfield passing percentage sucks balls, and there's no debating that.

Chiefnj2 10-29-2010 12:20 PM

Cassel has a wildly inconsistent WR and rookie TE as his two main targets. They don't really have a burner that can stretch the field. That too is going to affect how many shots Weis can take down the field.

Plus, this year has been all about low risk football.

milkman 10-29-2010 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 7127545)
:shake:

ya....becuase 65 yard throws are on a rope. great rebuttal.

swear, dude, you're gonna piss on this shit everyday of the season, you're getting too bitter to read..

My point is that throwing a ball 65 yards is not a measure of arm strength.

There's only a couple of QBs with the arm strength to throw a ball even 50 yards on a rope.

Oh, and why are you getting onto a pissing match with me here?
I was actually defending Cassel on that throw to Bowe.

Just Passin' By 10-29-2010 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7127569)
No, that's just ****ing stupid.

You're comparing apples to oranges.

It's the same sample, you dolt. You like to stir up shit by making some of the stupidest arguments on the internet. Try something shocking. Make a decent argument for a change. JFC.

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7127569)
Anyway, it's ****ing irrelevant to the conversation. Give him credit or not, I don't care. The fact remains his downfield passing percentage sucks balls, and there's no debating that.

Yea, with his 41.5% he's hardly any better than Drew Brees and his 41.4%, and he's even worse than that Brady guy and his lofty 42%. Good to know.

Chiefnj2 10-29-2010 12:34 PM

Although Sanchez is much more accurate than Cassel on balls thrown 11-20 yards down field (57% compared to 44%), Cassel has greater accuracy on balls thrown 21-30 and 41+. (Neither has completed a 31-40).

Chiefnj2 10-29-2010 12:36 PM

Although Sanchez is much more accurate than Cassel on balls thrown 11-20 yards down field (57% compared to 44%), Cassel has greater accuracy on balls thrown 21-30 and 41+. (Neither has completed a 31-40).


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