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philfree 02-14-2011 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7429158)
I've never understood they get paid to play a game crap either. Eminem gets paid 10's of millions a year to sing, and he really hasn't in like 5 years. He never took an NFL hit in his life. He too is the product and gets maybe even 100's of millions a year yet no one is bitching about that.

I wonder if Eminem actually gets 60% of all the revenue?


PhilFree:arrow:

shitgoose 02-14-2011 01:37 PM

This is going to **** up years of hard work if they don't hammer this deal out.

"Sunday, Donny, is the American day of football. That means I don't turn on the oven, ride in car, spend time with my family, mow the grass, and I sure as shit don't ****ing let my wife think its a day in which she has any control."

penguinz 02-14-2011 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 7429208)
I wonder if Eminem actually gets 60% of all the revenue?


PhilFree:arrow:

The artist usually makes about $1.00 off of a CD sale. So if there are 4 members and they split equally they each make a quarter off of a CD sale.

They make their money from touring. (after they pay the label back any $ borrowed to fund the tour).

philfree 02-14-2011 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 7429229)
The artist usually makes about $1.00 off of a CD sale. So if there are 4 members and they split equally they each make a quarter off of a CD sale.

They make their money from touring. (after they pay the label back any $ borrowed to fund the tour).

I haven't purchased a CD lately but we're talking about $15.00? Yeah he's probably not getting 60% of all revenue generated. Record Companies and Agents.


PhilFree:arrow:

WV 02-14-2011 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7429109)
The average NFL salary is 900,000 dollars. It isn't an exorbitant salary unless you're talking about top tier QBs. Secondly, this viewpoint that "they play a game" keeps getting brought up. Yes, they "play a game", a dangerous game, a game that takes a significant number of years off their lives, and significantly affects the quality of those years they have left. They trade those years for money, and I don't understand why people think they should just take whatever line of bullshit the owners throw at them.

Ok, by your logic the average NFL salary being $900,000 coupled with the average NFL career being 3 years....that works out to them making 2.7 million over their careers. Pardon me if I don't get out a hanky to cry for them. I'm pretty sure a high percentage of this board could survive quite well on 2.7 million dollars for 3 years service. You think a police officer or soldier would be ok with that? After all they have pretty dangerous jobs too.

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7429158)
I've never understood they get paid to play a game crap either. Eminem gets paid 10's of millions a year to sing, and he really hasn't in like 5 years. He never took an NFL hit in his life. He too is the product and gets maybe even 100's of millions a year yet no one is bitching about that.

That's a whole other thread and as a matter of fact I think that's BS too, but again that's another thread. I'd rather like to see Eminem take an NFL hit.

Brock 02-14-2011 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WVChiefFan (Post 7429280)
Ok, by your logic the average NFL salary being $900,000 coupled with the average NFL career being 3 years....that works out to them making 2.7 million over their careers. Pardon me if I don't get out a hanky to cry for them. I'm pretty sure a high percentage of this board could survive quite well on 2.7 million dollars for 3 years service. You think a police officer or soldier would be ok with that? After all they have pretty dangerous jobs too.

2.7 million minus, what, 60 percent taxes? Plus the likelihood that your body's screwed up and hurts all the time and you're probably not going to see 60? How much money policemen or soldiers make isn't relevant, they're not in a business that makes billions of dollars of profit off of their work.

WV 02-14-2011 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7429300)
2.7 million minus, what, 60 percent taxes? Plus the likelihood that your body's screwed up and hurts all the time and you're probably not going to see 60? How much money policemen or soldiers make isn't relevant, they're not in a business that makes billions of dollars of profit off of their work.

First off you were talking about averages and I hardly think that the average guy making the 2.7 million is going to be physically debilitated forever after just three years. Not only that the average life expectancy of an NFL player is not less than 60. They've only just begun to research any of that and the worst ones are O and D linemen because they're fat.
The policemen and soldiers are only irrelevant because your picking and choosing. You used the analogy of the dangerous aspect of their livelyhood as justification for their salaries. I certainly would think they would fall into that.

I don't have any numbers or stats to back it up, but i would be willing to bet there are more millionaires in the NFL than not and its not from their degrees. So again sorry I don't feel for them.

Chiefnj2 02-14-2011 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 7429154)

Still, I have to wonder how the veterans feel about a kid coming out as a Junior getting paid more in a year than they've made throughout their entire career. That's gotta sting a little.

FAX

Probably the same as Redskin players who watched Haynesworth break the bank during a contract year and not bother showing up to help the team all of last year.

vailpass 02-14-2011 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7429368)
Probably the same as Redskin players who watched Haynesworth break the bank during a contract year and not bother showing up to help the team all of last year.

Fat Albert got me to wondering if there are any failure to perform clauses in NFL contracts.

Brock 02-14-2011 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by WVChiefFan (Post 7429350)
I don't have any numbers or stats to back it up.

I already knew that.

WV 02-14-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7429396)
I already knew that.

I guess common sense is also optional.

Brock 02-14-2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by WVChiefFan (Post 7429458)
I guess common sense is also optional.

It appears so.

Swanman 02-14-2011 03:34 PM

I am really torn on this issue. I don't really feel sorry for players that get paid millions to play a game (and wreck their bodies in many cases, not ignoring that). But at the same time, the owners, by and large, are despicale c**tfaces so I have to side with the players if forced to pick a side.

MahiMike 02-14-2011 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 7428583)
The owners are banking on the fact the fans will turn on the players if a lockout occurs. That can be the only reason for their brazen attitude towards the players.

I'm firmly pulling for the players with this one.

Not me. Nowhere in the world do the employees get 60% of the revenue.

OnTheWarpath15 02-14-2011 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 7429743)
Not me. Nowhere in the world do the employees get 60% of the revenue.

Where else in the world (outside of professional sports) are the employees also the product being sold?


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