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Ugly Duck 09-25-2011 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 7938317)
the Faid are well on thier way to a 2-8 record outside the division yet again.

Experts picks 'em even at 12-12

ESPN: 5-3 Raiders over Jets
NFL.com: 3-1 Jets over Raiders
CBS: 4-1 Raiders over Jets
USA Today: 6-2 Jets over Raiders

Pasta Little Brioni 09-25-2011 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck (Post 7938364)
Experts picks 'em even at 12-12

ESPN: 5-3 Raiders over Jets
NFL.com: 3-1 Jets over Raiders
CBS: 4-1 Raiders over Jets
USA Today: 6-2 Jets over Raiders

Smoke em if you got em. The Raiders smell like Bill Callahan and Al Davis depends.

Ugly Duck 09-25-2011 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 7938317)
the Faid are well on thier way to a 2-8 record outside the division yet again.

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Buck 09-25-2011 08:52 PM

They should reset the poll and let us vote again. I mean, I voted for Cassel the first time through and I will again, but I think it would be Cassel pretty overwhelmingly if everyone voted again.

Ugly Duck 09-25-2011 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 7943202)
They should reset the poll and let us vote again.

NFL.com Season QB Rating through Week 3:

#10 -Jason Campbell
#23 - Phillip Rivers
#25 - Kyle Orton
#31 - Matt Cassel

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta..._PASSER_RATING

BigMeatballDave 09-25-2011 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 7943202)
They should reset the poll and let us vote again. I mean, I voted for Cassel the first time through and I will again, but I think it would be Cassel pretty overwhelmingly if everyone voted again.

Yep

BillSelfsTrophycase 09-25-2011 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7937290)
Cassel is going to come on strong midway through the season and have another excellent Pro Bowl season.


:LOL:

Rasputin 09-26-2011 12:49 AM

Cassel is just best at sucking!

Chiefs4TheWin 09-26-2011 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7937290)
Cassel is going to come on strong midway through the season and have another excellent Pro Bowl season.

Knowmo never lets me down! LMAO

Ugly Duck 09-26-2011 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (from an older thread)


The Raiders might be the worst pass blocking team in the league
with the worst receivers.

How are you supposed to beat teams with killer defenses like New York (Jets)

Wake up and smell the coffee. The Raiders got worse this offseason, the Chiefs got a LOT better

NFL.com ranks the Raider O-line at #2. You are wrong about the Raider O-line. Campbell's two "sacks" were when he tripped on McFadden's foot & fell and also when he took too long on a kneeldown. His lone INT was a hail mary. Campbell finally has time to throw the ball & enjoys the #10 QB rating. Veldeer & Wiznewski are playing very well.

NFL Stats: by Team Category

You were wrong about the Raiders getting worse. You were wrong about the Chiefs getting "a LOT better." Its OK - I've been wrong before, too. At least, I think I have.....

Rasputin 09-26-2011 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck (Post 7943731)
NFL.com ranks the Raider O-line at #2. You are wrong about the Raider O-line. Campbell's two "sacks" were when he tripped on McFadden's foot & fell and also when he took too long on a kneeldown. His lone INT was a hail mary. Campbell finally has time to throw the ball & enjoys the #10 QB rating. Veldeer & Wiznewski are playing very well.

NFL Stats: by Team Category

You were wrong about the Raiders getting worse. You were wrong about the Chiefs getting "a LOT better." Its OK - I've been wrong before, too. At least, I think I have.....

Give this man a cookie.

Inspector 09-26-2011 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 7860758)
x+x=truth
2x=truth
x=truth/2

truth/2 = half truth

you only telling a half truth as usual

half truth = LIE

QED

You kids and your new math. No wonder I can't help my grandkids with homework.

Ugly Duck 09-28-2011 04:29 PM

ESPN Insider sez Campbell is NOT the worst AFCW QB:

It is clear this team is not the same old Raiders. In fact, it looks like a bona fide playoff contender. The obvious place to start is to note the play of Darren McFadden. He has always been a dominant player (he was every bit as good as Jamaal Charles on a per-game basis the past three years) but his early MVP-like start is finally getting him the acclaim he deserves as one of the NFL's best running backs. But space may be opening for McFadden because of the progress quarterback Jason Campbell has made in his second year in coach Hue Jackson's system. Campbell ranks in the top 10 in the league in both Total QBR and in passer rating. Campbell has also made zero bad decisions (defined as when a quarterback makes a mistake with the ball that leads either to a turnover or a near turnover (such as a dropped interception or fumble recovered by the offense) this season, so it isn't as if his numbers are the result of luck.

He's not just throwing a bunch of safe passes, either -- 31 percent of his throws have been of the vertical variety (vertical being defined as aerials thrown 11 or more yards downfield). That Campbell is gaining 11.8 yards per attempt (YPA) on those vertical throws is impressive enough (only five quarterbacks last year finished the season with a vertical YPA that high), but what makes it even more notable is that it has been largely achieved without the services of Louis Murphy, Jacoby Ford and Kevin Boss. All three have missed significant time because of injury and yet Campbell and the offense have continued to thrive.

One reason Campbell is having success on downfield passes is the superb job the Raiders' blocking wall has done in protecting him. Oakland has allowed only two sacks this season (a total that is tied for the lowest in the NFL) and one of those occurred on a fluke play when McFadden tripped Campbell while trying to make a block. That Oakland has achieved this total while having a second-year player (Jared Veldheer) at left tackle and a rookie (Stefen Wisniewski) at left guard speaks volumes for how well this group has been coached.

For the 2011 Raiders, that formula could mean as many as 10 wins and a spot in the playoffs.

kysirsoze 09-28-2011 04:38 PM

Yeah, I'd change my vote.

Mr. Arrowhead 11-23-2011 06:49 PM

Orton only got 8 votes


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